General Premier League Thread 2023-24 Mod Note in op 27/6/23 And 21/05/24

Martinez has had a bit of a strange career, stuck in the doldrums at arsenal forever out on loan and never playing regularly by any means, his career only really "kicked" off when he signed for Villa at 27-28 years of age. Bit of a poster child for players "waiting for their chance" so to speak.

Amongst many other things, it's such a plague on the game. So easily removed as seen in the world cup when they started adding on high amounts of extra time. For throw ins, goal kicks etc. there should be time limits on these things same as the max 6 seconds for keeper holding the ball. Anything over and its a warning with the 2nd instance getting an automatic yellow.

It's time wasting regardless of who does it but as its being allowed players will do it to eek out any advantage they can get.

I think Troy Deeney used to count the 6 seconds with his hands up in the air plain to be seen. I'm surprised more haven't adopted this to put some pressure on.

Russ Westbrook did it last year in the NBA during a free throw roaring down a 10 second count leading to Giannis getting called for exceeding it.

^^ Good ideas in principle but I would reduce the substitution time even further. You are supposed to leave by the shortest route, how could it take a professional athlete 10 seconds to move an absolute maximum of 50 meters? The nearest point of exit is totally ignored it seems to me.

On the second one, what happens when a player is badly injured? The opposition might get a yellow card and have a two minute sin bin in their favour. That hardly seems right. We want to get rid of feigning injury but we definitely don’t want to reward serious foul play either. An independent clock or the ref saying clock off like in rugby would be a better solution.

Unless it includes a stipulation for keepers it wouldn't make a big difference. Outfield players may stop but keepers would just increase their "injuries" as they can't be removed from play after treatment as is, hence the amount of Lazarus style keeper recoveries the last few years.

Looking at it again, it says the player is removed and assessed for a minimum of two minutes. Maybe a substitution can be made immediately and it is just the injured player who has to stay off for two minutes if he wants to come back on. That would definitely eliminate feigning injury but I would he more than annoyed if the opposition gained an advantage for a bad foul even if it was unintentional.

It wouldnt be popular for those who enjoy watching the skill of game management alright.

Terrible appointment but they should have enough to stay up.

We were here, about a month ago, with a different team being seen as "upstarts".

As I said then, I will say again - "Come back in May and we can look at the table then." Form, I've been told, is temporary.

In fairness, they had to build a squad from a very low base, really overachieved by sneaking into the playoffs

I’m a tad confused at this stage. I would sincerely hope the ref doesn’t restart the match if, having issued a red or yellow card or blown for a foul, a player is still getting treatment. So are we only talking about this rule applying to players randomly dropping like flies off the ball? It does happen but it is nowhere near as prevalent as the players drawing a foul and then acting like they were hit by a sniper.

The simple solution is a visible clock for added time. If this was started during every delay to the game, players would be able to see they weren’t running down the clock.

They would still do it to break the rhythm particularly if their side was under pressure but it would eliminate some of the total shithousery like fellas getting fouled off the pitch and rolling back on to get treatment or a player about to be substituted going to the centre circle, lying down, waving for treatment and then limping off afterwards but able to high five the entire bench and backroom team through the awful pain.