Is Elon Musk hurting Tesla? (Mod Note Post #1)

I would argue that Musk is associated with Tesla in the same way as Steve Jobs was with Apple. The vast majority would know who the CEO of Tesla is and they wouldn't have a clue who the CEO of VW, Ford, Audi etc etc is. I mean you can try and say it's moronic, but it is a statement of fact that he is heavily associated with the company. Mouthing off on Twitter is certainly not a good thing for the company and shareholders, I couldn't give a hoot what the cars are like.

Well I have experienced those build issues, but one is not allowed to mention that to the stans.

Exactly.

His actions have had a massive detrimental effect on one of his companies. Especially share price. That has to have an effect on his other companies.

Musk is a clown and twitter has 350 million monthly users many there for the echo chamber that makes then feel important. Its becoming an irrelevent platform for many people. He didn't invent Tesla but bought into the original founders visions which the car is still true to IMO opinion. I am sure the other 87% of share holders would like if he shut up and din't let the door hit him on the way out but I don't see that happening any time soon but this case might help:

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/IP_23_6709

In spite of his idiocy we still bought one and as a car its actually very good.

You must have got a lemon @Woodie40 sorry. Could happen with any brand I suppose. Depends how confident and assertive you are in pushing your consumer rights as to how much progress you might make. Did you go back to Tesla with your concerns about this bad car you were given?

The made-in-China Model 3 and Model Ys delivered to Irish customers in 2023 have been faultless.

Last line, perfectly describes you, anyway I will just ignore your childish posts henceforth.

Not wasting anymore of my time engaging with you.

Anyways I have a flight to catch, work has to be done.

Most people don't care enough to post about their positive experiences with Teslas, they just do the job for cheaper, less hassle etc.

I don't think either of you can claim the high ground looking over the last few pages of posts.

There's too many complaints about Tesla's build quality for it to be a rare lemon.

That said any product can have issues. It just a known quirk of Tesla's.

The 3s and Ys delivered to Irish customers this year have been excellent. They are the only Teslas being bought in this country now, so there's little point in cross-contaminating from other models or other manufacturing locations.

As a buyer you make an informed decision about the interior during your test drive, and then you have the weeks/months in-between deposit and purchase to back out because you've gone off the interior. When you push through to the sale and accept the car you lose the right to moan about a cheap plasticky interior or panel gaps.

Rattles fair enough, but apart from the passenger seat belt rattle we've not heard about (m)any others on here this year?

What does your "other 67% of shareholders" refer to? Musk owns just under 13% of Tesla according to Nasdaq in August. Has that changed since then?

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/how-much-tesla-stock-does-elon-musk-own-and-what-other-companies-does-he-control

I have about 4 posts in this thread or indeed any other Musk related thread. I have pretty much zero interest in cars, but obviously I need a car to get around, I regard them as boxes that get me from A to B. I don't really see them as a status symbols as some people would for 2 reasons really, I am not really trying to make a kind of statement and given my earnings the cost of a car is fairly insignificant. Now, with Tesla I would definitely be put off by Musk's promoting conspiracies and shitposting on Twitter. I would be pretty pissed off as a shareholder as clearly a CEO keeping his controversial opinions to himself is better for the brand than a CEO that winds people up (I am pretty sure he does all this just to piss people off).