Clontarf to City Centre Cycle & Bus Priority Project discussion (renamed)

Pawwed Rig · 04-12-2023 09:10PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121452217#Comment_121452217

We just have such low expectations here unfortunately

JRant · 04-12-2023 11:43PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121452217#Comment_121452217

They replaced a load of underground services along Griffith Avenue as well. They were out again at the weekend relaying the bike lane surface again.

Shedite27 · 05-12-2023 10:44AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121455542#Comment_121455542

Yeah everything from the enw apartments to the Malhide Road was ripped up to improve the sewrage system for the new apartments

bk · 05-12-2023 11:03AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121455542#Comment_121455542

That was actually a separate project. They relayed pipes on a relatively short section of Griffith Avenue mostly for the new apartments. Unlike the Clontarf scheme, the pipe laying wasn’t part of the Griffith Avenue cycle scheme, it did delay the cycle scheme by a few months, but it doesn’t explain the other 3 and a half years of the cycle scheme nor the relative low quality of the cycle scheme.

It is sad as Griffith Avenue was a perfect opportunity for DCC to show off that they could build a high quality scheme like Dun Laoghaire have done, but DCC completely dropped the ball.

BTW this really showed that the main delay of schemes like this isn’t the bike infrastructure, it is the pipe laying. The pipe laying on Griffith Avenue was a major disturbance to traffic when it was going on, yet for the most part you would barely notice any issues when they were putting in the bike lane.

CatInABox · 05-12-2023 12:10PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121456477#Comment_121456477

Yes, even the greenway along the canals are delayed, because they decided to do an ESB cable upgrade at the same time.

Citizen Six · 05-12-2023 03:34PM

A bin store, and truck parking. Get used to it I guess.

Thelonious Monk · 05-12-2023 03:47PM

f**k's sake, and imagine the abuse you'll get if you cycle one the road because of blockages

spurious · 05-12-2023 09:39PM

The exits from some of the smaller streets require cars to have their front bumpers creeping into the cycle lane for the drivers to be able to see bicycles coming, especially those coming at speed (or from the wrong direction). This was pointed out during construction, but appears to have been ignored. I suppose they will wait until someone is hurt.

Citizen Six · 06-12-2023 08:18AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121459321#Comment_121459321

It will be an issue alright. How do you get around that though? You can't widen the streets for a better view.

Shedite27 · 06-12-2023 10:50AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121460332#Comment_121460332

Yeah I don't see any way to resolve that, cars always had to edge forwrd to see out of roads, we had that problem when we were cycling on the side of roads too.

spurious · 06-12-2023 11:49PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121460332#Comment_121460332

It's as if nobody bothered to check the lines of sight. Before this, it was a bit tricky too, with cars having to be partly on the footpath to be able to see, but now the cycle lane is where the footpath was. At normal bicycle speeds it should not be a huge issue, but those electric scooter things can do some belt. I know at our street there is also a pedestrian crossing which hopefully should slow down the lunatic fringe. A bit of common sense all round will hopefully let everyone proceed safely.

Pawwed Rig · 07-12-2023 09:12AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121464627#Comment_121464627

Wishful thinking that common sense will prevail. As always it will 90% of the time but the other 10% is a significant number that will cause issues. You get the same thing walking where people barge their cars out of a driveway/entrance over the footpath

markpb · 07-12-2023 10:27AM

If people can't exit a side street slowly, an abrupt metal speed ramp will do the trick.

spurious · 07-12-2023 03:00PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121465335#Comment_121465335

The problem is not exiting slowly the problem is how far out a driver has to be to see round the walls of the houses at the end of the street. You end up in part of the cycle lane. It is not every street, just the narrower ones where the houses are flush with the end of the street.

There are already a number of steps to be driven over. I am hoping that is not how the road will be left, that there will be some attempt at levelling it.

Shedite27 · 07-12-2023 04:55PM

Cycled inbound on the cycle path today for the first time today, lovely experience.

bikeman1 · 07-12-2023 04:57PM

I was in Fairview earlier, particularly the stretch by all the shops. They seem to be going full tilt at it now with the blocks being laid and moving on to the surface and finishing off stage. The bit outside Gaffney's / Edge's corner will be a big job as there is a change the layout of the junction and a removal of the left turn outbound onto Fairview Strand at Edge's.

Is there some deadline that they are now working to? At last there is a push on.

Citizen Six · 07-12-2023 05:40PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121467253#Comment_121467253

There's a push on alright, but it's still taking longer than I thought it would. I'd imagine they have some end of year deadline. They told shops along the park that they'd have that section opened for Christmas trade, but doesn't seem likely to me any more.

I'm just hoping there will be some kind of enforcement of parking on the path, as well as misuse of loading bays. Garage on Bessborough Ave. using the loading bay to park their cars in. Knock on effect of delivery vans parking on the cycle path.

Thelonious Monk · 10-12-2023 07:14PM

https://twitter.com/DavQuinn/status/1733576782475866422

this clown

markpb · 10-12-2023 10:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121479965#Comment_121479965

That clown wins on two fronts with his blue tick. He gets to spout his anger-inducing bile to a greater audience and potentially get paid for it by Twitter. Best not to engage at all.

Citizen Six · 10-12-2023 11:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121479965#Comment_121479965

The comments are hilarious. "Perhaps it’s due to a lack of civic pride?" Improvements to the area means a lack of civil pride these days?

Zebra3 · 11-12-2023 10:44AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121479965#Comment_121479965

DCC should sue.

CatInABox · 11-12-2023 11:14AM

David Quinn has been trying to drag Ireland back to the 1950s for decades at this stage, so it's no surprise that he'd look back at the traffic jams of yesteryear with a fond, wistful view.

loyatemu · 11-12-2023 11:15AM

if they were levelling Fairview Park to build a cathedral, he'd be delighted (provided it wasn't being blessed by that degenerate hippy, Pope Francis).

Thelonious Monk · 13-12-2023 01:42PM

https://twitter.com/DubCityCouncil/status/1734891201013154132

we're getting there, i think i'm more excited about the outbound though, fairview coming out of town was always the worst part of my commute, hellish

bikeman1 · 13-12-2023 01:44PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121490523#Comment_121490523

That's brilliant news. I personally hate(d) in both directions on the North Strand from the Fire Station to the 5 Lamps. Total death trap.

13-12-2023 01:56PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121490523#Comment_121490523

Definitely the closest I've come to being killed on the road was on that stretch.

Duckjob · 14-12-2023 02:41PM

I still think they missed a trick by not having the route 2 way on the coastal side in as far as Annesley Bridge, with entry/exit points for people to access roads on the far side or for example the turn off to Summerhill / Ballybough

One of the joys of Sutton - Clontarf is if youre going straight you only have to interact with the 2 Bull Island roads and other than than your progress is completely unaffected by traffic lights and junctions on the main road.

2 way paths make huge sense on a large coastal road as you can really minimise interaction with the main road traffic.

bikeman1 · 14-12-2023 11:51PM

I was in Fairview again today. They were absolutely flying along. I saw 10 lads in one spot moving every around, then guys cutting stone, laying blocks around O’Donohoe solicitors.

There must be a plan to do the junction at Edges Corner / Gaffney’s pub over one right period as they will totally change this junction and their car park / mess room will be gone. Nothing has been done there.

Pawwed Rig · 15-12-2023 09:09AM

Seems to be a bit of urgency at last after many periods with not much happening. I wonder is it because the council release funding in phases?

Tenzor07 · 15-12-2023 10:49AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121497575#Comment_121497575

Christmas Holidays?

Clontarf to City Centre Cycle & Bus Priority Project discussion (renamed)

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