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General Premier League Thread 2023-24 Mod Note in op 27/6/23 And 21/05/24

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,500 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Is Howe sacked yet?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,704 ✭✭✭doc_17


    Newcastle have a lot of injuries. Howe has some wiggle room, but if he isn’t careful, he’ll be Jamal Jhasoggied.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,303 ✭✭✭✭klose


    How long before more teams try to emulate Villas extreme offside trap? PL average for teams catching opponents offside is 29, villas is 74 (stat showed up on sky midgame V Arsenal)


    I mean, it's the way to go surely? No grey areas with offsides now, you either are or not with VAR, and Villa are reaping the rewards due to Villas transfers and Emery's style.

    Interestingly they're also the 2nd best team for being caught offside, with 17. Liverpool & United being the worst with 40, Nunez the worst offender with 11 and Luis Diaz with 10. Big numbers for lads not always starting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,659 ✭✭✭✭OwaynOTT


    What happened to the Liverpool high that Jamie carreghar hated?



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 58,134 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Spurs gave it a go with 9 men against Chelsea a while back. Didn't work out so well....😂



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,272 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    He’ll beheading for the transfer market in January 😃



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭jacool


    Just a counter argument.

    15th in the world they may well be, but there are 6 English clubs ahead of them, so following that logic 7th is their ceiling and that equates with the Conference competition.

    I do agree with your squad analysis and no one has even mentioned Alvares, who I think was one of the buys of the summer. I wonder who they could get in to get them playing to their strengths?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,303 ✭✭✭✭klose


    If Ange had his time back he'd definitely had redone his game plan that day, the injuries/suspensions they picked up from that game kinda threw their title challenge out the window.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭Ottoman_1000


    Liverpool defend exactly the same way, highline with the hope of catching people offside. Its an extremely risky way of playing, you need to have lightening quick defenders, along with a keeper who's comfortable dealing with 1 on 1 and sweeping off his line. Also you need a midfield who can dominate the ball, or press the opposition aggressively without it, otherwise you will get exposed.

    I'm not so sure its easiest or even best idea for other teams to try and emulate. There's a many con's as there's pro's to the system!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,704 ✭✭✭doc_17


    So that’s 3 away games in a row as well for Arsenal in the league? Luton, Villa, Liverpool? That doesn’t happen too often to teams. Something genuine for Arteta to complain about.



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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 58,134 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Nah they have Brighton at home next weekend before the Liverpool game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,892 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Our most featured CB is quite slow. The Emery system is neither based on defensive pace nor is it particularly high risk.


    Every defensive system has kinds of goals that are most common against it when executed poorly, and this is no different. This one will receive more scrutiny when those kinds of goals go in than others do, but that’s moreso down to ignorance than increased risk.



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,893 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    They're not particularly hard to score against Villa, the revelation of Emery has been less about the defense and more about the attack.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,214 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Happy to see Everton are moving up the table and Dyche doing well. It was right they got the deduction but they could face much worse if they went down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,949 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    Dyche is, and always was, perfect for where Everton are at.

    Solid foundations, gets the team running, a likeable team attitude, aggressive.

    It wouldn’t shock me in the slightest if they were in the Europa places by next season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭jacool


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    I think the Premier League needs to re-visit the handball rule.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,564 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    City get away with everything these days 😏



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,858 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,892 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    The list of names you could put here is lengthy too. All the names I’ve spent years on here ranting about have become superstars under Emery.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,214 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    It shows the effect of a top manager, its why I think this notion that the players are the problem and not the manager at United is a fallacy. I dont know what ETH has done to be given such blind faith and jaw dropping lowering in expectations.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,360 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    Question for you lot.


    What if a goal had been scored or a player been sent off in the period between the penalty incident and the actual penalty being given in the Crystal Palace / Liverpool match.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,892 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    The goal wouldn’t be given if Liverpool had scored. Would have been if Palace had scored. Not sure what would have happened if someone had committed a red card offence actually. That’s an interesting consideration.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,214 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Ya good question.

    When it happened I also said, they can stop a game and go back a few mins to give a penalty but they can't stop a game and award a goal which was incorrectly ruled out, in the Spurs/Liverpool game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,044 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    It depends on the red-card.

    If it was for violent conduct then it would stand as a red card.

    If it was for something technical (deliberate handball, a niggly foul for second yellow etc) then it gets overturned when the game is reset to the penalty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,191 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    I believe if the game had stopped (went out for a throw etc), it wouldn’t have restarted until the check was complete. I think their rule is that once their process has concluded, a ruling made, and play restarted, that you can’t go back to it again. (Which obviously they should’ve just made an exception for under the circumstances - just 1 week later they did make an exception in the Chelsea game and no-one cared).

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,949 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    it's inevitable that Cristian Romero is going to put someone out of action for a while.

    it's so obvious that it wouldn't surprise me if an opposition player tries to do him first if the opportunity arises.

    the filthiest of the filth. and it's a pity, because he has all the attributes of a brilliant CB.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,704 ✭✭✭doc_17


    I can’t believe the referee wasn’t sent to review that Romero tackle. 100% deliberate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,949 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    because the officials are useless.

    there is no bias. there are no favourites.

    there are just objectively bad and inconsistent at making decisions. if your club happen to be on the bad end of a few, you're just unlucky and you will be on the right end of some at some point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭Ottoman_1000


    Ridiculous tackle, 3-0 up and he does that....it would have been one of the more deserved red cards of the season, 1 for the tackle itself and 2 for the absolute stupidity of it!



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  • Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What happened to post game punishments? Seems to have disappeared with VAR



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