Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

Jeez, of course I am not happy that innocents are being killed or refugees bombed. I asked a simple question out of curiosity. Read it back again.

Houthi's attack French frigate with drones. Looks like Santa may be getting a day off this year.

Brickster, thats not how it's done. A group are surrounded and herded into an area under gunpoint, told strip off, leave their clothes on the ground, surrender any arms they have, and move away from where they left their clothes. And during all this procedure, they are under the eye of trigger happy IDF soldiers, armed with at least several machine guns. They could kill every single one of them in less than 2 minutes. Thats no badly made IDF video, that's the real thing.

Not sure why you are quoting me. My conversation was with another poster. I see no other comments by you in this thread. Unless you are using two different names? If you tell me your other name I'll read back your questions and respond. Or point me to your original question (a lot of posts here so I may have missed it).

Mark Regev was on Drivetime last week. Unfortunately for him, he was up against Sarah McInerney. He stated that once this was over, the Palestinians would be grateful to Israel for what Israel has done in Gaza. Sarah said "really?" and he lost the plot. But then stated that "yes, 100% they would be grateful". This interview doesn't surprise me. In fairness, Mark Regev is doing what he is paid to do and what he is told to say. Likewise, commentators on the other sides do the same. Its a war of the airwaves. And similarly, the first casualty of war is the truth.

It is always important to understand who is saying what and to question what they are saying. I would tend to listen to the spokespersons but hold my judgment until I hear/read of an analysis by an independent journalist of quality - preferably with independent corroborated evidence.

A few posters here have mentioned that they would not swallow any particular story until robust evidence is gathered - I agree. As this war progresses, we will hear more evidence that fills in some of the gaps of previous incidents characterised as mass rape, prisoner humiliation and so on. Until there is independent verification of evidence, it is likely that someone is lying or being liberal with the truth. And that goes for both sides.

This is correct. It is also a war crime to indiscriminately fire rockets into civilian populations.

On Oct 7th 2023 Hamas fired over 5000 rockets into civilian populations before launching a land invasion killing all men women and children they came across .

Apart from the hundreds they took hostage of course. They paraded hostages around Gaza in celebration. One was recently found dumped and decapitated. A young girl. Someone's daughter.

Hamas must be wiped out.

So you are ok with innocent men, women and children being murdered?

They have now ordered 2.3m people into the only safe zone in Gaza which is 3.3km long smaller than London airport- it is pure evil - worse than anything in our history

Are you suggesting that you fully support the Israelis mass-murdering innocent civilians? And post a satellite image of the mass grave? Would that please you in some way?

You had asked a while back for me to show a post where you excused murder... I think you've just nailed it.

Now, you show me a post where I have excused murder or rape or any other atrocity. Quid pro quo.

You have stated, multiple times, that posters (including me) are excusing rape and murder. You stated that Hamas had a policy on rape. You provided no evidence when challenged. You have accused one poster of being a rape denier - with not a shred of evidence.

Own your posts, own your words. Point out where I have made "stuff" up (other than me asking you to go get your big boy pants on - you could be 40 for all I know). Point out all the posts excusing murder and rape.

Or continue to live in your own little bubble and echo chamber, throwing insults and accusations out to anyone who doesn't conform to your point of view and row in with your own outrage. All without evidence or corroboration.

I suspect you'll continue to do the above - but I'd be delighted if you proved me wrong.

Why?

Pretty obvious they are just rounding any male up now.

I don't see any eamples.

Be brave and quote the posts of Hamas sympathisers excusing mass rape. If there are several examples, it won't take you too long.

You might also quote my posts where I made stuff up. I'm still waiting for that.

The Garda do not strip people to their underwear and make them kneel on the street. Doesn't happen.

Frisked and if necessary strip searched at the station and clothes taken for forensics if required.

There's a hell of a lot of bluffing on this thread. People stating things as being true when they know in their heart and soul that they're not. Very disingenuous to say the least.