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Farm payments 2023

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,859 ✭✭✭Packrat


    Any account of the remainder of the Eco scheme.. that's still significant money in my case.

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 284 ✭✭TheClubMan


    Spot on. It's a very frustrating site to use at times. There's been plenty of occasions where I've hit a tab and when I try to go back to the main menu I can't so I have to logout or exit and log back in again. If there was a more simplistic layout, farmers might do some or the applications themselves instead of getting an advisor. But maybe the department want don't want to reduce their workload even though their swanned under as it is...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Couldn't get through to dep last few days.. put through to voice mail..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,304 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    0578674422 that's the number I ring. Ring at 9.15 am



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Farmers probably have them plagued, I found that payments always come.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,304 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    If you've gotten correspondence you need to ring them to sort it out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    There's plenty ringing because they won't wait their turn, if you've got correspondence its mostly because the application is wrong.

    Payment isn't late until march, If someone sells €.5m worth of milk and is panicking about the biss or something, it's not with the department of ag that the problem is



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,859 ✭✭✭Packrat


    As we discussed the other day, very few in co-operation zones would be selling a half a million worth of milk. More like 10k worth of store lambs or 15k worth of weanlings. 7k held up in Acres until March is a very big deal to them.

    I agree wholeheartedly that any lad selling a half a million in milk has bigger issues if he's in trouble for that type of money.

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,432 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Your forgetting about applications held up for digitisation, in the father's case I sent a email after been fobbed of on the phone, worded it that if funds weren't to be gotten before Xmas could you please provide us with a letter to present to a bank to explain as such in the hope of getting a bridging loan, it was sorted within a week, and payment cleared after a boundary fence issue was shown as permanent between to blocks, on geo-loacated photos provided to prove it....

    I reckon if you create a paper trial with emails they will sort you out as you have proof, to pull them up on, going the telephone route your only getting fobbed off



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 248 ✭✭Thekeencyclist


    I was the same last week, tried ringing a few times, couldnt get through, emailed them and in fairness they responded within a few hours......id say email them if ya can.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Yes, agreed, but the biggest complainant on here is in the €.5m milk supplier bracket. how they can justify bringing their file to the top of the pile over your examples.

    MY neighbours here that are in the 200 cow bracket did a huge development ,full facilities for 200 cows, I see one of the partners got planning permission this week for 3000 sq ft house, That's the sort economy that dairy farmers are dealing in, To be fair, they're one of my tenants here and freely admit that subs are only pocket money to them. os they're not hassling the department



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,859 ✭✭✭Packrat


    Jesus.. A different world completely. It just re-iterates that no one organization can effectively represent both groups.

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Bar the very wealthy farmers, bps and anc are very important for us all. Find the agfood portal very good also



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭Stationmaster


    I don't know how the small, full-time farmer does it. I got the farm less than 2 years ago, unplanned, and work off it as well. This winter I have to outwinter 35 animals instead of the usual 15 as I got locked up with tb a fortnight ago, so have no sales for the year and now the grants are less than half paid what they were other years from looking at the past records. It makes no sense to me!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,530 ✭✭✭tanko




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,145 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    There is very few small full time farmers any that are usually are single mainly men. Many draw the farming social support RSS.

    If you have no shed you should seriously consider building one over the next few years especially if you can avail of tge higher TAMs.

    Farming is a cash business ( from the POV that it is hard to sustain cash flow borrowing ) and ideally you should have a mechanism where you have access to.six months cash flow through your farming account. Often easier said than done and while normal cash flow borrowing is to be avoided access to an overdraft can s e issues that arise like this

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭orchard farm


    It’s not easy I can tell you!and getting harder every year.A tight ship has to be run efficiently and any upset to that ie tb lockdown or delay in payments and the s12t hits the fan.I’ve finally realised there’s an easier way to make a living without killing myself



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,397 ✭✭✭kollegeknight


    Eco payment in amounts due.

    i managed to get a loan to cover the silage contractor and keep things going til march/cattle sales.

    what I had in the shed wasn’t good enough for sale yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭bonaparte2


    Organics plus Eco in amounts due



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 843 ✭✭✭degetme


    Is the balance eco payment on ag food for ye??



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,277 ✭✭✭✭893bet




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭kerrysoul


    Eco bal on amount due on AGFOOD today



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 760 ✭✭✭Silverdream


    Good weekend so far,

    85% Organics and the Eco payment in amounts due

    ESB €150 credit paid also



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,064 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Yes, just balance of fodder support and balance of Sheep improvement scheme due now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭green daries


    Just a thought and question for folks.....we have all given out stink (or the most of us anyway ) about delays in the payments etc etc but I get the feeling acres aside that a lot of folks have had good experience this year . As in when they started rolling out money it was fairly efficient. Am I on my own with this thought 🤔



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,622 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    It is bedding in a whole new system. Bound to be teething issues but have sympathy for those tight with cash flow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,064 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Yes went away fine here but would agree with Water John. Anyone tight for cash would be entitled to be anxious about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭OrangeBadger


    Eco they are still digitising maps

    Acres next year apparently

    Slightly annoying



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    My problem was changing herd number , normally always get it on time



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 614 ✭✭✭Young95




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