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Paraffin/Kerosene Heater - types of fuel..

  • 30-10-2023 07:09PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭


    like many nowadays I'm concerned about the price of heating the house and the room I work out of is the coldest of the house, the garage!

    I remembered how my father used to have a Paraffin heater he'd use out in his shed or deploy to some rooms in the house occasionally when the cold was biting, a lovely thing called a blue flame heater "because it has a little window and if you looked inside the glow off it was a lovely blue colour!) I also remember it gave of some serious heat for something of its size and would boil water if you sat a small pot on top for a few mins...

    SO as an experiment for last winter I went looking for a modern equivalent of his Kero heater...bought a neat and tidy one at a Dublin based crowd who sells them (not going to say, google) who sold me 2x 20L tubs of something called "TOZANE" oil along with it to get started...safer and less smelly alternative to Kero I was told. the heater worked well enough over the winter, no complaints, grand. However this Tozane stuff (which I thought already was a bit cheeky moneywise as I was loading it into the car) is horrific money now working out about €2,40/L it's not exactly sold far and wide and I'm wondering now is it a bit of a p**stake? not much info online it's marketed as a "ROLF" (Reduced Odour Liquid Fuel) and happy to be corrected but far as I can tell "tozane" is a brand name

    Just wondering anyone out there who tried this Tozane stuff but switched back to Paraffin and how did it go? did the roof cave in or did things go ok? Or just burns Paraffin/Kero and lives to tell the tale. I don't remember my fathers heater choking everyone to death tbh so wondering if this is all a bit modern marketing bllx.

    ?



Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,804 ✭✭✭JVince


    2.40/L is a good rate. A lot of the cost is in packaging it up and transporting it and a retailer will want a higher margin as it does not exactly fly off the shelves. Kerosene is about 1.30 in small quantities from a pump but will stink the place. Even if you check UK suppliers, they tend to be about £2.20-£2.50 / l based on 20L drums.

    When I was growing up my dad also had a paraffin heater, but back then the local fuel station (Esso goatstown - long long gone) had a paraffin pump (and a kerosene pump) because the heaters were fairly popular.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 Masterkey01


    Im in the same position as you sort of but worse off, Ive used my heater 2 winters now and I've just turned it on this morning, Im down to my last 4ish litres, Aswell as the fact its eye watering in price compared to other fuels, I also cant purchase it anymore without making the drive from Kerry to Dublin, As they no longer ship it. Id be very happy to find an alternative but im not sure there is, From what I've read is Tozane is very clean fuel and anything else will damage the Heater.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 aidocore


    Could I ask you who own a heater, how long is a litre typically lasting you?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭martco


    I'll test measured amount next time I fill her, standby



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,399 ✭✭✭The Red Ace


    I have one of those heaters as well but what I ran it on last year was aviation fuel,avgas which is as far as I know hi grade kerosene, got a few gallons from a friend who had contacts in those circles. Avgas is advertised for sale by three different companies in Irl, maybe you know who supplies to farranfore



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭Five Green Bottles


    AVGAS is essentially PETROL a high grade petrol. You CANNOT put that in a paraffin heater, IT WILL BLOW UP.

    Jet Fuel (JET A1) for turbine aircraft is a low sulphur and more refined type of Paraffin it should be cleaner than Kero or home heating oil, Im not sure if its safe for domestic indoor use.

    Never ever put AV GAS or 100LL aviation fuels into a Paraffin heater



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,399 ✭✭✭The Red Ace


    Ok it must have been jet a1 as it didn’t explode or go into a fireball and I did a check with a very small amount first.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,716 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    I've had an Inverter 5086 since December 2010. Has never let me down, beast of a thing.

    There's a crowd much nearer you, in Cork, that looks almost like a franchise of Sheds... Same prices and same stuff. 5x20L of Tozane. And they courier. So happy days. https://www.idealstorage.ie/product/paraffin-oil-tozane/

    Woodies always have paraffin, 4L, at exorbitant cost. As always. But handy if stuck.

    I've run on kero spiced up with Dipetane and never had nay gumming issues. But I can understand how it could easily happen over time. Because of my pets, moreso than myself, I stick to proper paraffin now.

    Also seeking a better price than €54 delivered as, despite the production lag that could be expected between wholesale kero and packaged paraffin, Tozane /ROLF has not tracked back down AT ALL since Feb 22. So rolf indeed except its not funny. Someone in the supply chain IS taking the p*ss.

    MCL, where I got my Inverter and 20L drums originally and for a number of years are even saucier on the prices. The competition is sparse; a 2 horse race...


    I am still toying with fitting a good quality 5kw Chinese diesel heater (MaxPeedingRods) to my home office but they're not a simple plug and play (depends on the usage scenario) and I haven't time on these short days for faffing around.

    It looks like €54 delivered for paraffin is the height of it unless anyone has any better options? I used to collect 10+drums when I worked nearer but driving bombs are not so popular with insurance companies. Nor I as I gain sense with age.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,716 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    Worth noting that in France, where these types of heaters are very popular (along with Japan where most are manufactured), they're referred to as 'petrole'. As astutely pointed out, don't put petrol in a paraffin heater or it will be almost the last event of note in your household. A life-ending episode.


    Lots of confusing terminology around paraffin /kero especially if reading American /Canadian fora; so be careful out there.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,716 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    Too many variables. The type of heater, the room, the temperature demanded, the temperature being battled, the hours used. Etc etc.

    Suffice to say cheaper than central heating but then there's the initial outlay. Mine cost €279 in Dec2010 and still pulling like a train, with all electronic features working (its Japanese after all) as of tonight. And they cost €389 now.

    In a large semi-d kitchen, say, from 8am-12 pmon a weekend, at 18c, in winter such as this? 3 days for 5l tank. Thats 12 days for now €54 delivered. On gentler winter days, that's closer to 5 days. In very late Spring, closer to 10 days max.

    These figures are very approximate, and for a 230v fan-driven heat (i.e an Inverter or any injection/atomising model). I also have a non fan wick style paraffin heater that's BNIB and for a proper grid down situation as, while the radiant heat is always nice, fan-driven is the best comfort and very small watts (750w startup, 30w draw) even if using a battery/inverter setup or a solar powerstation.

    Bottomline, its very difficult to offer figures to anyone else. Have a look at dryitout.com as they used to have good info.

    Paraffin heaters are very safe if used as intended and basic maintenance and rules observed (e.g. never block the rear air intake. I did accidentally only recently and it overheated but thankfully its clever enough to switch itself off).

    So don't buy secondhand unless you understand these heaters, don't mess with the recommended fuel (unless you understand etc) and be mindful of children and pets. Children moreso as pets are typically smarter!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭Five Green Bottles


    Hi

    Does anyone know of somebody who services paraffin inverter heaters in the Dublin area?

    Thank You



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭sheff the ref


    Bought one of these yesterday. The fuel supplied was Douglas Premium Paraffin but it is expensive enough at €22 per 4 litre container. However it serves a purpose of providing heat in a self build where power is only available with an extension lead.

    My understanding is that the merchants who sell paraffin heaters in rural towns also service them.

    Paraffin heaters have taken over from Super Ser Gas heaters in power cuts because hauling Gas cylinders is a difficult task.

    Don't ask me about how economical it will turn out to be. It will be a short term item with intermittent use, so therefore running costs are not the biggest consideration.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,716 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    You will need Tozane or Rolf. About 60 now for 20l.

    I assume you have a wick heater. As a high tech model like an Inverter needs 230v power. About 6-700w on startup and then maybe 30w to run the fan thereafter. So a basic powerstation that can surge to even 700w will work. A small Bluettinor maybe a Pecron.

    Servicing of these is few and far between. But there are plenty of videos online if you are so inclined.

    I got mine serviced ONCE in McLoughlins in Newbridge and it came back leaking. Brought it back and sorted but thereafter I never brought it anywhere. Only use rolf or Tozane and do the basic owner servicing like cleaning the air intake etc (take a look at ShedsDirect; I've bought over 100 drums from them over the years). Never use kero. And dont waste your time with greenhouse grade paraffin. Only use tozane or rolf. My Inverter 5006 has just gone on the blink with an E0 (zero) code after 15 years of being a 9 months a year trooper. Its fixable. I will follow the videos and do it myself in Spring when I get time and light.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,250 ✭✭✭god's toy


    Got mine late November and using every day. They are fantastic! works out to about 5LT per week! (2-3hr per mon-fri and 5-6hrs sat-sun)

    Mine is the Zibro (laser) Toyotomi LC 132 plugin type type. Uses 400W from the wall for about 2 mins then just 14W at full tilt output (3.2KW heat) then dropping to only 7W when the room is warmed up and the unit is at lowest 0.8kw output.

    They have auto on-off timers, heat related on-offs too.

    I have used both Tozane and Qlima fuels and while both are very low in smell I found Qlima to be the better of the two as its just that little bit less over all but really most people don't smell it at all really (after the startup and shutdown(s) are done.. you will smell it then for a moment)

    Only negative is the slightest tip off it and it's shutting down and its a 1 min restart (Earthquake alarm.. wish the could be disabled)

    shedsdirectireland.com and coolaliving.ie are handy for them and the fuel now.



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