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MS in all its glory

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,653 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    ^^^

    i hope it gets sorted soon . Do you need another operation ?

    in my MS news I’ve realised , from watching countdown , that while I’m still good with words , all maths have left my head .



  • Posts: 24,009 Davis Stocky Typographer


    I do need a hysterectomy. Oh wow! I do get cog fog, moments or days when I can’t think of anything let alone straight. Other times I semi to have amplified sharpness which caused me great delight! 😁😁😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,653 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    I hear ya . There’s times i go to the shop and can’t remember why and names of people I meet . Other times im sharp as a razor .

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  • Posts: 24,009 Davis Stocky Typographer


    I’m seeking a further consultation with another gynaecologist re the possibility of having a hysterectomy don’t privately, the reason being I’ve been told this absences can get chronic and recur in acute episodes. It is not compatible with MS treatment or any immune suppression, so I’m stuck in a limbo of sickness. Technically, the surgery would take hours of peeling away adhesions, replacing lost blood (adhesions being highly vascular), trying to mop up infection left behind. It would mean an ICU bed had to be available as there’d be a 50% chance I’d need it for first couple of days, and the public hospital would inevitably tend to keep cancelling the procedure until absolutely forced to do it when I’d be in the verge of sepsis. Apparently post-op infection in these cases is almost inevitable so I could reckon on a couple of weeks inpatient stay. I’ve been here before with bowel operations, but eventually you do come right, and I’ve made spectacularly good recoveries once infection is cleared. After the very complicated panproctocolectomy with ileostomy , as soon as all infection was cleared I was off to Antarctica and swimming in seas 2C!



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,542 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    Crikey, Recode, that's a lot going on.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,653 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    My right foot feels like it’s a ton weight



  • Posts: 24,009 Davis Stocky Typographer


    Actually it’s a complicated story but from gynae side all turned out ok. I had a panproctocolectomy in 2016 (no colon) so my internal anatomy had been radically altered and gynae team had attempted scope without paying heed. Turns out they accidentally perforated uterus, I ended up with peritonitis which responded to treatment, the stress resulted in peptic ulceration which is now being treated. I got a second opinion from expert private gynaecologist who is familiar with especially complicated surgeries and he identified what had happened and assured me my plumbing there is essentially perfectly healthy though altered in position which completely threw the public hospital gynae team. Private cardiologist assured me I am good to go for MS treatment as far as he’s concerned. I return to MS clinic end of November, cleared for treatment.



  • Posts: 24,009 Davis Stocky Typographer


    I often describe it to people on my worse days that it feels exactly like divers weights have been tied to lower legs, with tight bands around calves, and cutting off nerves like tightly crossing legs. MS can be fairly well simulated in healthy people.



  • Posts: 24,009 Davis Stocky Typographer


    Had read this before, but reminded of it by a post on LinkedIn



  • Posts: 24,009 Davis Stocky Typographer


    Edit - wrong thread!



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  • Posts: 24,009 Davis Stocky Typographer


    This article arrived in my inbox, it explains so well the essential role of EBV in the development of MS



  • Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,445 Mod ✭✭✭✭Nigel Fairservice


    Interesting. I had a very bad case of glandular fever in childhood. Missed weeks of school over it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭eimsRV


    Evening all,

    wondering if anyone can share their experiences of navigating work/career with worsening MS symptoms. Particularly cognitive issues. I have taken some sick leave to deal with this, but now face decisions on if I return back full time or look to reduce responsibilities and hours. My employer does have a long term illness insurance plan, but not sure if this kicks in if I go part time versus can’t work at all.


    thanks x



  • Posts: 24,009 Davis Stocky Typographer


    Attended the SVUH MS Clinic this morning, seen again by Prof Tubridy & examined by students, one of whom asked me to try tandem walking, which is impossible for me. Prof Tubs furious about how I was neglected for years when I mentioned episodes of foot dragging etc and was dismissed, and he says my GP is most uncommunicative, as is a doctor who “looked after me” in Blackrock.

    As I have HPV , he says treatment is not possible unless I can clear that, and what’s more it looks questionable that I have progressed beyond a window where treatment would be effective, I nearly took a toss when in seeing him, he thinks it’s not at all ideal that I’m living alone.

    But he is ordering another MRI and I had 16 blood tests this morning. I’m to be referred back to gynae re the HPV, and he will see me again around February/March.



  • Posts: 24,009 Davis Stocky Typographer


    I’m retired (young), have terrible short term memory loss, would never be able to hold down a job now. Ironically, I can do IQ tests no problem 😁 so my daycent intellect is well preserved. I’m good at problem solving but I can’t recall what I did two minutes ago!



  • Posts: 24,009 Davis Stocky Typographer


    Yesterday had a very bad day with mobility, as well as recent severe short term memory loss & increasing fatigue. Was out doing shopping, supported by my stick, could hardly move either leg, ended up coming to a stop for several minutes, left leg refusing to budge an inch extra with stiff muscles, right leg doing its thing of buckling under me. I was stuck to the spot for a minute until I inched forward and got to a shopping trolley for support. Very depressing how it’s so badly catching up on me, all happened so quickly this year.

    Well meaning people suggest I get shopping delivered etc, the point is I absolutely crave getting out and about and if I make a habit of being stuck looking at the 4 walls the muscle I have left would perish and I would get utterly depressed as I live on my own.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 195 ✭✭tanka006


    Hi All,

    @[Deleted User] i have exactly what you describe, walking, memory & fatigue. i have PPMS

    I have been on infusions each six months called OCREVUS - About OCREVUS

    It targets a type of immune cell called a CD20-positive B cell that plays a key role in the disease. OCREVUS is approved by the FDA to treat relapsing or primary progressive forms of multiple sclerosis (MS). OCREVUS is given once every six months by an intravenous (IV) infusion.

    Now for my walking i am starting a one month test of a drug called Fampyra. -Fampridine is only available on prescription under the supervision of a doctor with knowledge of MS. The doctor usually provides an initial prescription for two to four weeks and then the treatment is assessed to see if it is working, usually by timing how long it takes to walk a short distance (eg. 25 feet).

    Up to a third of people find that fampridine improves their mobility, so only this group would be prescribed fampridine in the longer term. The initial two to four week trial is currently funded by the manufacturer.

    We will see, i am concerned as it states common side effects include dizziness, headache, back pain, difficulty sleeping, feeling sick and stomach upsets. Dalfampridine may worsen trigeminal neuralgia. I suffer with terrible trigeminal neuralgia. But i need to stop falling & walk properly.


    Tanka

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭adam88


    Hey all. Diagnosed 5 1/2 years ago. Overall I’m doing quite well. Very mild symptoms. My neurologist has sort of left me to it in terms of getting on with life. I’m on gilenya and as I say things are okay. I’m just wondering is there any benefit in being more pro-active in terms of treatment etc in order to prolong mobility and minimising symptoms??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,653 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    Having a serious bout of fatigue these last few months. It all started with a bug / dose I had which really knocked me for six , and haven’t got back on my feet properly since. It doesn’t help that I am stressed out about legal issues I need to see to . My appetite is completely none existent as all i do is sit around all day . I’m just in a bad place at the moment.



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,542 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    I'm on Fampyra. It is funded only for those who are deemed " responders." You will do a walking speed test before you start on it and another after a month. At the time of my first test, I had 2 broken ribs, so my walking was naturally quite slow, a month later I was quicker. Might be worth keeping in mind.... It doesn't particularly make me much faster, but I can stand for longer periods of time and have less spasticity.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,653 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    I don’t think it would do me any good now . Im on a walking stick full time and 6 baclofen daily for spasticity. It probably would he been great years ago . I’ve had symptoms all my life , weakness and tremors in my right side going back to primary school. And my lesions are pretty old .



  • Posts: 24,009 Davis Stocky Typographer


    Prof Tubridy said if or when I get treatment it will likely be Ocrevus, but that having pathogenic type HPV rules any treatment put altogether, unless I can find myself clear of it, as risk of cervical cancer would be too great. Also before offering Ocrevus he is making sure I don’t have a very similar demyelination to MS (Anti-MOG disease) which would require very different treatment. He said any attempt to treat me might be too little too late and he should have seen me years ago.

    I got Covid last week, it was a very short few nasty days, really very minor in the scheme of things. However the MS has been frighteningly bad since. I have almost no feeling from the waist down, can’t feel my legs at all but for vague pins and needles. Except when they itch like mad, or I get crawling sensations or that feeling that hot water is trickling down which I sometimes imagine is urine, which it’s not, or sometimes I feel like fingers tapping me. But I keep hitting my feet into things and tripping nonstop unless I’m looking down ALL the time at what my feet are doing. I’m losing mobility very fast, getting constant spasms around my torso, but I’ve learned a psychological trick for relieving this.

    A poster mentioned about having symptoms since childhood. I used to tend to fall over sideways often as a young child, and there were other issues, but I thought these things most happen everyone. my mother was given the banned drug DES during her pregnancy with me, allegedly at the time to prevent miscarriages. It creates all sorts of challenges in offspring, particularly females, and alters genes. I had ulcerative colitis until I got my ileostomy in 2016, a condition that comes with autoimmune reactions in joints, skin, eyes. Any time I casually mentioned anything neurological, “likely part of the colitis”, and even though a neurologist saw “white lesions” on an incidental MRI, he told me they might or might not be significant, and fecked off with himself to another hospital and sub-speciality.

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  • Posts: 24,009 Davis Stocky Typographer


    I feel this time next year I will be using an electric wheelchair a lot of the time. I’m amazed to see people with MS using manual wheelchairs, my arms and hands wouldn’t have that strength, I just keep dropping everything, I’m the clumsiest bull in a china shop and I could get knocked down by a little old lady making firm headway… nearly happened yesterday, had to stop and stand still to allow her to go around me. 🤣

    I live by myself and it’s getting frightening even walking around to local shops, and I was nearly run over by an impatient driver on my own quiet estate who blared the horn at me to get out of his way. I imagine I’m going to need full time care in a few years.



  • Posts: 24,009 Davis Stocky Typographer


    Re Baclofen, I hear it spoken about for spasticity and spasms, but how do you get it prescribed? And what are the side effects? I’d be afraid of anything making my muscles even weaker. They are shockingly weak as they are. Will be attending my GP on Friday, but he can be quite cynical at times of prescribing things. Mind you he didn’t help at all in getting me neuro attention in the first place and is perplexed at how I’ve gone so poor on mobility so very quickly.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 61,545 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    As a complete ignorant to this illness, has anyone ever engaged a physio to try small weight bearing exercises to help keep what muscle control and strength there is going?

    Sorry for my clumsy wording, I am to work on quads, glutes and pelvis stuff to help my core stability and wonder if similar applies



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,653 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    I don’t think I need full time care in the next year but definitely in a couple . I can’t even walk about my small living room as I fell over the coffee table and haven’t been able to tidy it up. I only eat ( when I do eat ) dinners from the shop . I loved cooking and making dinners , but a microwave is all I’m fit for now.

    my deterioration in the last few years has been staggering.

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  • Posts: 24,009 Davis Stocky Typographer


    It’s shocking g how quick it can encroach. I’ve been unsteady coming down steps or on uneven surfaces a long time, but kept on kind of making excuses and trying to convince myself things weren’t really as they were as sometimes I could walk pretty fast on the flat, at times whizzing about. But show me a downhill or even two downward steps without a rail and somehow I couldn’t really do it. I didn’t bother even mentioning it to GP as he would have shrugged his shoulders., and a best repeat B12 blood tests would be done.



  • Posts: 24,009 Davis Stocky Typographer


    As regards my own experience, attempts to exercise my muscles, eg do leg raises, results in immediate severe muscle spasms. Everyone knows what leg calf cramps are like as they are common in people with zero issues, but in MS these same type of cramps also occur in thighs, abdominal, chest muscles, feet, hands etc, sometimes multiple muscles going into spasm at any one time. When Prof Tubridy made his initial assessment of me he asked me to demonstrate a leg raise, immediately my thigh and abdominal muscles went to sharp spasm and I was automatically catapulted into an upright position; he told me not to even try doing stuff like that as it was very clear I’m not able. I hate the way the disease robs you of so much capability of exercising, which is so good for mental health.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,653 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    Walking downhill was something I noticed early on . Coming from the countryside in Monaghan that’s full of drumlins , walking up hills was grand. But downhill was terrifying.

    I remember going to the Canaries where there’s loads of small steps will no rail . Never again.

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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,542 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    Baclofen is a life saver for me .It can be a bit tricky at the start to sort out what dosage you need to keep you relatively supple but not do much that you fall over!I’d imagine your neuro would be the one to prescribe it, as some GPs might be wary .

    I did a zoom programme called “ Smart Moves” through MS Ireland and would highly recommend it .



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