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Shane McGowan RIP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,004 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    I am not so sure about that. Plenty of maroons out there doing drugs. Whether they will ever become famous is another thing. Not saying he was a maroon but maybe if he had not done so many drugs and not smoked he might still be alive now instead of dead at 65. His death did not come as a surprise to me at all.

    He had destroyed his brain with his drug taking and drinking.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,672 ✭✭✭✭josip




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,572 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    A great entertainer, songwriter and human being. RIP Shane. The bells are indeed ringing out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,004 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,620 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985




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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 21,560 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Really sad to hear this, I hope the demons are at rest but Shane is still Shane in whatever exists after this life.

    Post edited by Leg End Reject on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,589 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    He stayed in a hotel I was the night porter in during the Galway Fleadh when they were showing "If I Should Fall From Grace" and honestly he was an incoherent drunken mess pretty much the entire time. He was drinking pints of White Russian at the same rate his hangers on were quaffing G&T's (on his tab of course). In the two nights he stayed I got the best two tips of my barkeeping career: £100 from his then manager Joey Cashman to keep the bar open (something I was already being paid to do) and, far better: a rendition of Rainy Night in Soho (my favourite Pogues song) in the stillness of a hotel bar at 4am as the dozen or so of us there marvelled at the fact a man that drunk could still tear your heart out when he sang.

    He was undoubtedly a genius, and sadly his alcoholism made him vulnerable to a lot of unscrupulous people only too happy to indulge it as long as he was picking up the tab.

    RIP Shane



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,437 ✭✭✭✭leahyl




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭TooTired123


    He lived far longer than some others who enjoy the same lifestyle.

    He was a clever man, I doubt he expected to ever be 70.

    Poor Mathew Perry spent $10 million trying to get sober and lived a life full of regrets and self recrimination and still died at 54.

    Just be who you are, relax, enjoy yourself and let nature take its course.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,859 ✭✭✭Lillyfae


    I think it's very sad, for as far back as I can remember he was incoherent and completely enabled by whoever was around him. He was literally being wheeled around the place in a demented state for the last 15 years at least. The artist died a long time ago. RIP to Shane.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    RIP Shane, but I can’t stand Fairytale of New York and we will be bombarded with it even more this year.


    Also, is Shane not British?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,004 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    He was born in Britain to Irish parents so no he is/was Irish. He loved Ireland.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,717 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    RIP Shane

    Is his biopic with Barry Keoghan finished?

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,821 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭Sigma101


    Nope, he was more Irish than me, and I'm 100% Irish.

    Being Irish is a cultural thing, it's not defined by your birthplace. Shane was more influential in shaping Irishness than any other artist I can think of. For those of us growing up in the 80s, Shane made us feel, for the first time, happy to be Irish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,427 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Christy and Finbarr Furey are perhaps our only two national treasures in the music industry still with us now.

    RIP Shane



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,556 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    Rest in peace to another Irish legend, up there with kirsty singing away ❤️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 869 ✭✭✭cheese sandwich


    Seems appropriate for the day that’s in it.

    Classic scene from The Wire



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


     a rendition of Rainy Night in Soho (my favourite Pogues song) in the stillness of a hotel bar at 4am

    I can only imagine - that must have been absolutely amazing. It's one of my favourite songs.

    May he rest in peace.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,658 ✭✭✭rogber


    He was in a miserable state for many years by all accounts so his passing is not premature, despite his age.

    I suppose there'll be discussion about whether his talent was wasted to a degree by all the booze and drugs but it seemed very inseparable from his whole persona.

    Either way, the Pogues peak in the 80s was great, they've 5 or 10 songs that are all time classics and another dozen or so that are at least worth a listen.

    The songs will live on and hopefully this December it won't only be Fairytale that gets airplay

    Btw his surname is misspelled in the thread title!

    Post edited by rogber on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭jmreire


    In the case of Shane, everything. Because everything he did was shaped by the area he lived in, and the culture he grew up in. A house with a big old-fashioned kitchen, with a big open fire, where sides of pigs were hung up in to be smoked, and a blackened smoke kettle or pot would be hung from a fire iron and swung in over the fire to boil. In the winter, cards would be played, songs sung, stories told, and a few bottles drank.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,589 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    It was an incredible experience and one that'll live with me for the rest of my life. Unquestionably the greatest tip I ever received as I'd been asked a few minutes before if I had a favourite Pogues song and he raised his glass to me as he started it. Sozzled as he was, there was still a kindness to him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,859 ✭✭✭Lillyfae


    Really? He had a scholarship to a school in Westminster, he was mainly raised in England.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,779 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    Maybe as a mark of respect to his art the radio might actually start playing his Christmas song again, hopefully uncensored.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Yes, but he spent a lot of his growing up in the family home place near the Silvermine's, outside Nenagh in Tipperary. Thats where he learned all the Irish songs, and where he got his musical influences from. He never claimed other than he was Irish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,620 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Is that actually true.

    I know Tipperary is backwards but the lad was only in his 60s. That sounds more like my grandparents childhood not my parents.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,060 ✭✭✭✭Strumms



    Obscenely talented, Rum Sodemy and the Lash would be probably be in my top 10/15 favourite albums all time records, their best of is unreal…I’ll give both it spin later.

    Considering his lifestyle, 65 really is a pretty decent innings and he’s achieved and contributed more in those 65 years than a lot of people who’d live even 20 beyond that…..leaving an incredible legacy of music to be enjoyed for all time....

    shame about his addiction it would have been nice to see him enter older age with good health and a greater chance to live a fuller healthier life….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,620 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    When you say "give both a spin" I do hope it's the rum and sodomy you are referring to 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,138 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    Are you under the mistaken impression that radio stations don't play Fairytale of New York any more?

    According to https://irishradiolive.com/playlists, the song was played a whopping 3,420 times on Irish radio since November 1st.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,859 ✭✭✭Lillyfae


    Fair enough but The Pogues were a perfect marriage of Punk and Irish trad, most of The Pogues were English. He wasn’t raised in a crannóg.



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