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Harry and Meghan

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭Karppi


    Quick! Start writing and get HarpersCollins on board! You could call it, "Opening Gambit".

    By the way, note to H&M - Prince George will be the future King. Suck it up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,481 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    Concerns or conversations?

    Big difference, and if there were any concerns, perhaps they were for the baby? Hoping that the public/media wouldn't be racist?

    If there were conversations, they may have been like me and my friend every time she was pregnant and I wondered if the baby would get her red hair.

    Sure they can just spin this whatever way they like without any actual details, sure who can tell if it was racist or not!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,084 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Ask yourself which is more profitable for Meggy?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,504 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Exclusively white family who made a fortune from the slave trade in racism shocker.

    I have no idea who Omid Scobie is, sounds like a name you give someone in the witness protection programme but if stating the obvious sells books then fair play to they.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,603 ✭✭✭valoren


    It's one thing for some innocuous passage in the book to get lost in translation but the part where the identity of the "concerned" person is revealed? Wouldn't such an important part be at least double checked before going to print? I wonder how Scobie knows about the contents of a letter between Charles and Meghan? Such a head scratcher. 😄



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,603 ✭✭✭valoren


    All of my family is white and so it comes as quite a shock to find out that we are racist. Oh well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,357 ✭✭✭Be right back


    Isn't it funny? Didn't she sue some paper over it printing contents of her letter to her Dad? I wonder will the royal family continue to stay quiet and not do anything about Meghan and Harry?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,504 ✭✭✭✭Boggles




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,603 ✭✭✭valoren


    One needs to own or have owned slaves to be racist? No ownership as far as I know but we're exclusively white on both the maternal and paternal side so by your logic we are racist because other races didn't get a look in. Was slavery exclusive to the British Royal family? Any thoughts on the people who sold them the slaves?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,504 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Any thoughts on the people who sold them the slaves?

    They sold them too.

    We don't have go back 100s of years either to get a glimpse of what they thought of non whites.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,603 ✭✭✭valoren


    The courtiers banned immigrants and people of colour from clerical roles until the late 60s. Not the case today. No blacks, no dogs, no Irish and all that toxicity.

    Btw, Scobie was the author of Finding Freedom. The book Harry and Meghan didn't collaborate on with him but actually did. Scobie is again denying any involvement from them in the new book but now it has emerged that he knows pertinent contents of a letter between Charles and Meghan but, to re-iterate, Harry and Meghan were not involved. 👌

    The only explanation would be if he wrote the letter, left the letter which incriminated himself on his desk, then someone on the staff came across it, read it and then, of all available options, sought out Scobie to let him know that Charles was the concerned one. Rather fantastical really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,504 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    It's hardly a stretch to assume Charles was the racist.

    He did grow up in a house (several palaces) that banned non whites from working there.

    Also he was raised by a man who was a keen casual racist, publicly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,357 ✭✭✭Be right back


    If Meghan wants to cut ties with the 'racist' Royal family, the family that she never had, then do it completely and give up their titles.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,461 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    NEVAH!

    This was her eye on the prize from day 1 - she’ll never give that title up .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,461 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    I’ve seen the Dutch version of the page with translation online.

    Seeing the persons name I really don’t think there was anything in this other than adding two plus two and getting six - storm in an afternoon tea cup from day 1 - tittle tattle for maximum effect - Americans live a great racist story especially when there wasn’t any to begin with - I can see how the RF are well done with both of them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,603 ✭✭✭valoren


    Charles isn't his father but yeah he's so dedicated to the being a racist bit that he was quite happy for his son to marry a woman of mixed race. 🤷‍♂️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,603 ✭✭✭valoren


    Will Meghan be suing Scobie for publishing contents of a private letter? She sued ANL over a letter to her father so why not sue the publishers about a letter to her father in law?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,504 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Very happy. She lasted how long before being ran?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,084 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,603 ✭✭✭valoren


    It was 72 days of service by Meghan iirc until they decided that because of the press they wanted to only do the role part time while they could be freed up to go and make loads of dosh with a unique Royal USP. Ran? More like they chanced their arm to have things both ways, were told it was not going to happen and they have been moaning about not getting their way ever since.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,603 ✭✭✭valoren


    So Charles is the concerned one and is to some obviously a racist yet, if the PR is to be believed, Meghan still writes to him, has been using titles from the institution now headed by a racist, has her kids using titles from the same institution, sends pictures of the kids to the racist, has the kids sing happy birthday to the racist and would be happy to accept an invitation to Sandringham for Christmas to spend time with racist. 👌



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 20,786 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    And was happy to have him walk her down the aisle and accompany her mother to sign the register at the wedding.

    All perfectly normal when someone has been a big, bad racist to you ... oh, wait ...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    Meghan and Harry have done a complete u turn on the racism story anyway so it’s a non story.

    i wouldn’t believe a word in scobies book I’d say it’s mostly lies and he knows the royals won’t respond to it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,461 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Amazing what principles you’ll sacrifice in order to pay your expensive PR firm and the fact that you’ve been told by said PR firm that complaining actually doesn’t make you much money over time unlike being upbeat and positive which can pay handsome dividend.

    I reckon Harry too might be getting homesick for his old life and probably feels he’s missing out now on everyone else just getting on with things- only so many times you can praise your wife in one week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,461 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Calling it a translation error- TBH having seen the name within the translation it might make some sense(that it was a translation error) and it didn’t really make a whole lot of sense who it “named” - I reckon H&M need to make a statement on this fiasco- they’ve caused it afterall - feic Scabies he’s just a hangeron who’s well past his 15 minutes.


    Don’t see them getting a Christmas invite or indeed a lesser new years invite at this stage 😀




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,665 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Hmm...a "translation error". Sure, Jan. But it's certainly generated some publicity anyway. I'm sure it wasn't intentional



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,357 ✭✭✭Be right back


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,603 ✭✭✭valoren


    Harry has also said what was said wasn't racist but was unconscious bias. I think he himself thought Meghan was the bees knees but when others weren't so keen or convinced then it was obviously their unconscious bias (and not the idea that they might not have liked an unlikeable Meghan) at play because she was American and mixed race. Cognitive dissonance from him.

    To be honest they've scuppered this all by themselves ever since Oprah when they couldn't even get the story straight i.e. Meghan saying it was multiple conversations while she was pregnant while Harry said it was one conversation before they even got married. First it was one then it was two and now it's allegedly back to one. Given that the translation error names Charles then perhaps Harry was minimising it all with Tom Bradby because his dad was now the King. They should make a statement to clarify what the story is. An actual one and not via spokespeople. If it's Charles then confirm it and own it but Harry would have to go and re-iterate that it wasn't racist all over again and if it was a genuine publishing error then perhaps they can just give the name (or names) and give this ridiculousness a solid foundation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭Karppi


    Basically, their collective stories are a Category 5 clusterfuck mess.



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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 20,786 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Have the grand reveal filmed and then cut to Oprah's shocked face when racism was insinuated in the interview.

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    Harry and Meghan have turned themselves into a ridiculous soap opera so might as well just lampoon everything they say and do.



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