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Where do you report a restaurant that wont give you tap water if you ask for it?

  • 22-11-2023 08:59AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭SharkMX


    Went out for food to an Indian restaurant at Kellys corner with some friends.

    One of them doesnt drink flavored drinks or alcohol with their food and when they asked for a glass of water at the table. Then I decided I wanted a glass of water too to have with my drink that i already bought and asked for one also.

    They said sorry we only have bottled water and it would cost €. We both said no, we would just like tap water please.

    They refused and we asked why were they refusing. The answer was that they could not give customers tap water because it was bad quality so they would only sell us bottled water for our safety.

    This really annoyed all of us at the table, especially the person who only drinks water.

    I feel this needs to be reported, but who do we report it to and how? Its a total scam.

    Besides if they were telling the truth, which i doubt, and they dont have quality water in the place for cooking, washing etc they should actually be shut down.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 27,954 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Restaurants are under no obligation to serve you tap water (or anything else) if they don't want to, so there is no-one you can report this to. The restaurant is not doing anything unlawful.

    Obviously what's going on here is that the restaurant would feel embarrassed or unable to charge you for tap water, and the don't want to forego the margin they would make by selling you bottled water. So they hope that, by declining to supply tap water for free, they can encourage you to buy bottled water.

    It's a very stupid marketing strategy but not, as I say, an unlawful one.

    Obviously the story about the tap water being unsafe is bogus. It's the same tap water that you drink at home; it's perfectly safe.

    If the tap water actually were unsafe then, yeah, there'd be a public health issue, and it would be a concern of the HSE Environmental Health Service. You can, if you wish, report to the Environmental Health Service that this restaurant is telling its customers that their tap water is unsafe to drink. But the EHS will see as quickly as you and I have that this is bogus, and they don't want to be drawn in to a what is in reality a dispute about a restaurant's shoddy attempts to sell overpriced bottled water. They have genuine public health concerns to deal with. So I don't think you'll get a lot of mileage there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,210 ✭✭✭Trigger Happy


    No law has been broken so there is no-one to report them to.

    Leave a bad review, never darken their doorway again and move on with your life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,995 ✭✭✭6541


    Could you just get up and go to a local convivence store and purchase water for a 1/4 of the price ? Assuming one was near.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭Deeec


    Honestly you need to get real. It's possible the water is of bad quality and unsuitable for drinking. If they had given you tap water and you became ill what would you have done then - put them out of business?

    What do you want to achieve by reporting them?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭SharkMX


    Didnt know they could refuse you tap water. Wow. I stand corrected.

    It is very bad form though.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭JVince


    Where on earth did you get the idea that a restaurant had to provide free water?


    Wow alright. Amazing what people think they are entitled to



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,745 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    There's plenty of places where it is actually a legal requirement - generally a component of the liquor licence. Just not Ireland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,699 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    This is Ireland: in many towns, the tap water takes horrible, even though it's safe to drink.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,872 ✭✭✭standardg60


    Give me a break, it was an Indian restaurant, not a restaurant in India. If it wasn't suitable to drink everyone in the locality would be informed of such so it's clearly bs.

    It's poor form to treat a customer like that but as above it's not unlawful, though perfectly reasonable to name and shame online, i'd be pretty peed off too if it were me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,442 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Restaurant is in Dublin, it's the same water a million+ people drink every single day. It's an obvious lie so it's odd that someone would defend this.

    If they're making their customers ill with anything they serve then yes absolutely they should be shut down until they can rectify the issue. But that scenario is clearly nonsense. If the tap water is suspect what are they cooking the food in? What are they washing the crockery and cutlery in? What are the staff washing their hands in? They should certainly be shut down in such a case!

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,285 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    Lots of places are happy to supply tap water. Highly unlikely the water is unsuitable to drink.

    Cost cutting and a level of meaness is my guess

    Go elsewhere for your meals. Maybe if enough people voted with their feet/money they'd realise that being cheap is poor form and shortsighted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,442 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    double post

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 805 ✭✭✭lmk123


    I’d say straight to Drew Harris or else the army, maybe try the SAS, such is the gravity of this situation



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,613 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    I have never been refused a glass of water in a restaurant anywhere.

    It's outrageous to refuse a glass of water to someone dining in a restaurant.

    And to think these people probably consider themselves part of the hospitality industry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,247 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Look they didn’t only have bottled water. No restaurant in this country is without potable water. No public building is…. They are just attempting to nickel and dime you for a few more euros.

    may not have been practical but I’d just have walked and not paid… it’s quite reasonable having been refused the simple courtesy of a glass of tap water…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭JVince


    Walked and not pay for your meal?

    What a totally and utterly stupid comment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭mondeoman72


    OMG That is the absolute stupidest - throw toys out of the pram post I think I ever read. And for the record, tapwater is not free for a business, it is paid for in water rates. A business pays its bills from its fare, that includes the sale of bottled drinks, side orders, food and whatever.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,332 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Tap water is as good as free.It was most discourteous to refuse tap water to a customer.

    I thought the customer was always right.

    With us it was the other way round .We always gave water from a bottle in case there was any question about the quality of the tap water(old pipes in the house)

    Never charged for it.

    Maybe the restaurant owner didn't like their customers (unruly ,impolite?) and over reacted.


    Maybe the staff was new and inexperienced?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭mondeoman72


    1. No, it is not "as good as free", a business has to pay for it.
    2. You have no idea what the restaurants financial situation is, so reducing additional drink sales by giving away water could be causing financial damage. I am frequently a designated driver and always have to pay for my pint of miwadi. "Sure its as good as free"
    3. "I thought the customer is always right" LOL, That is an americanism linked to Karens.
    4. The general attitude of the OP where they want to report the restaurant is laughable. Perhaps they should do that. Hopefully they will be put right.
    5. Recently, I dealt with someone having a mickeyfit over someone selling "poisionous" food past its best before date. I linked them to the FSAI and they went quiet.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,332 ✭✭✭amandstu




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭mondeoman72




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭Savetheplanet


    Not really relevant when we know the restaurant was beside Kelly's corner in Dublin though. It is out of order but as said, not illegal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,332 ✭✭✭amandstu




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,882 ✭✭✭ozmo


    Years ago - I worked in a fast food place after school in Dublin City- the workers there were always under the (likely incorrect) impression we had to give tap water when asked. I only worked there parttime so didn't question it.

    One regular customer would often ask for water - then asked for the hot water - then started bringing in his own teabags and asking for a dash of milk.... we drew the line at that point... lol.

    “Roll it back”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    You may be factually correct but seem to be clueless about business and especially service industry and consumer psychology.

    The answer for a struggling restaurant is never to make the service worse and come across like a tight-arse.

    Every restaurant should have 'free' filtered water in any case and add it into the food cost.

    Simon Harris is monitoring the situation...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 900 ✭✭✭Mr Disco


    Did you call the gardai? This could be seen as attempted murder by thirst. You may be in line for lots of compo if you take a civil case !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,247 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    😅 They also pay for light and heat, insurance…. Should clients be billed for those directly too :) ? Maybe charge for toothpicks and serviettes while they’re at it eh 😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,694 ✭✭✭Hoboo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,247 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    I won’t need to, where I eat the water is free and brought to your table. 😉



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭JVince


    I assure you it's not free. It will be built into the money you pay somehow.



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