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Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,257 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    Whatever is damaged from accident get it replaced.

    I'd include bike in that to. If you were to honestly sell your bike the day before accident and the day after there would be a significant difference in value; the doubt over the structural integrity of frameset will significantly effect value.

    Why should you suffer that loss?

    If the insurance company stall tell them you'll keep old bike once they provide the non destructive testing that validates and certifies the integrity of frameset. The person smart enough to do the testing will be smart enough not to certify it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,637 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    Ah will you stop, slap on the wrist for drunk driving, hit and run, and those injuries....no chance just a slap on the wrist whatever the details of the victim.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 953 ✭✭✭monkeyslayer


    Thanks all for comments, a lot sorer today, leg and arm a bit strained too. Vhi clinic had a good look at the back and it seems just badly sprained. Had to get a tetanus for the road rash. I'm OK tho, really just feel like I've been rugby tackled, by a car. Gardai took a full statement from me and progressing it onwards with driver and the witness. I'll wash the bike soon enough and look at it, it was a wet dirty day and its covered in road muck. Guess I'll just wait for investigation to be done and proceed then with the garda reports.

    Re the accident itself, I have no idea how he could have missed me, his passenger saw me, who drives onto a large roundabout like that and doesn't look. He was day dreaming. He was more shocked than I was, he made no excuses.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,805 ✭✭✭standardg60


    Bound to feel worse the day after, take your time with assessing injuries and damages as insurance aren't going to blink about paying out here, hope you regain your confidence again though which is the main thing.

    Will be interesting to follow in terms of any charges brought.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 953 ✭✭✭monkeyslayer


    Yea will see how it goes, I'm just incredibly grateful for no broken bones or head injury. I don't doubt the sincerity in the mans apology but it astonishes me that it even happened. Its a car he's driving, not a shopping trolley, he has to be looking at the road.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,456 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    I hate to say it, but if it hadn't been a Garda on the bike, I fear that it is unlikely it would have been investigated with the same vigour, including getting CCTV footage from the pub showing her big sesh there for the afternoon.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 482 ✭✭munsterfan2


    If it's carbon get the bike replaced, you'll never be happy cycling downhill at 50 / 60kmh on the frame. Friend and myself got sideswipped on the N2 about 2 years ago, driver ran the stop sign, didnt see us. Felt I was OK, and he paid for the bike replacement within a week so we didnt follow up. Not sure that was the right thing to do, shoulder still gives me a bit of bother when swimming

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,482 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    The cyclist took a very strong right turn! If that was a wobble as some are claiming, then that's even more reason to look over your shoulder before taking off. If I was that uneasy on a bicycle I'd like to be sure that I'm, not going to swing out in front of someone else, even if that person is in the wrong.

    Victim blaming is where the person is at fault of the incident. People can take measures to protect themselves and still not be at fault. This is why we have helmets, lights and hi-vis clothing.

    Not reading my posts clearly! I didn't say it had an impact on the incident. It was a side note. People have had dogs who have never bitten anyone until that one day when it happens!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    Victim blaming has nothing to do with fault. The opposite in fact - it's where fault is implied even though none exists. Even going beyond that, fault and causation are two completely different concepts.

    The fault here is with the dangerous road user - that's not the cyclist, it's the motorist who decided to overtake with a close pass into a junction. Mention of no helmet, no hi viz, no lights, no bell, no reflectors etc. etc. etc. is irrelevant to the actual incident. It's like saying you should have signalled 10 metres earlier. No, 15 metres earlier. No, 25 metres earlier. No, you should have kept your arm out indicating as soon as you approached the junction, the entire time you were waiting at the junction and until you had completed the turn. And you should have been constantly looking around. And ringing your bell.

    In other words, what he could have done is purely subjective and referring to it, where he actually did nothing wrong, is the perfect example of victim blaming.

    He was the front-most road user at the junction. All traffic behind him should have waited until it was safe to pass him. The onus is on them - as it would have been if he was a car or motorbike - to judge the situation in front of them and act accordingly... not chance their arm and plough past through a small gap.

    As for the cat point... that's just nanny state mentality - something bad could happen therefore it should be banned. In this case, the cat demonstrated more self control and discipline than the motorist. If we demanded that road users actually take more personal responsibility for their behaviour instead of relying on the lack of enforcement and the constant need to try and shift blame, the roads would be a much safer place. I know I'd prefer to share it with people like that cyclist, who has the ability to train an animal to behave that well in traffic, rather than people like that motorist who clearly have so little regard for anyone else's safety because they're in such a rush.

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Got a SMIDSY this morning, pulled out in front of me at a roundabout. Pulled up further to apologise that he didn't see me so at least he was civil.

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    It's so weird, shouldn't have let it slide but he seemed genuinely sorry. Other than I let a roar and am always ready to haul my brakes in South Dublin during rush hour I'd have been hit. Lots of kids coming the other way on bikes. For anyone who has ever seen me in real life, I am far from . invisible.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,805 ✭✭✭standardg60


    Yep always ready to drop anchor in those situations until I make eye contact with the driver, people get used to just glancing to the right on approach and if there isn't a vehicle then they're clear to go, you could just happen to be behind the a pillar at the time too.

    On the plus side it's a lesson learned for them to look properly next time.

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 53,399 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    I once scared the living **** out of a cyclist (I was driving) as I entered a roundabout and I *think* he was mostly hidden behind the A pillar of the car at the point I should have seen him. Wouldn't like to think I'm making excuses for myself though.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,779 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Turning right at the last roundabout into my estate this evening. Car coming straight down, I'm indicating right. Well lit up, helmet, high vis and I even pay "road tax". Guy in bmw stops but leans on horn, stops car for afters through a rolled down window as i pass. What makes people so angry whwn they're driving

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,904 ✭✭✭tnegun


    I had some amount of close passes this evening I think they were punishment passes as I was well out due to leaves and crap on the road, most were on unlit roads so the camera doesn't show them well. I'd the usual crap moving right at this junction it doesn't matter how long I hold my arm out traffic just pushes past here in an attempt to beat the lights and as can be seen in the video it's often pointless!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭Schorpio


    One of the worst 'must get in front' incidents in a while.

    This car decided it would be worth overtaking me, into the path of an oncoming car, just to catch the visible line of stationary cars.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,456 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    It's worth marking such occasions by stopping in front of them and giving them a slow handclap.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,456 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,390 ✭✭✭Be right back



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,390 ✭✭✭Be right back


    ^^ Is it just me or is that unsafe cycling? Yes, the lorry should have waited but...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭Schorpio


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,435 ✭✭✭Allinall


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    Shout out to the wa****r in the white van who decided to cut the corner at a rural junction this morning at 6:35am and nearly wipe me out of it.

    It was going to be head on, I swerved, I took the wing mirror in the forearm managed to stay on the bike. Cnut didn't even stop.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,390 ✭✭✭Be right back


    If you know the road there are two exits for Carrigaline where I guess he wanted to go.. If he had stayed behind the lorry he would have still have made the turn. I thought it was crazy to be cycling where he was.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    Same. Almost every driver has had one of those incidents, it just seems that a hell of a lot of drivers don't take any message/ lesson away from the experience, certainly judging by the reactions when they're pulled up on it. Like Cram, if someone seems genuinely remorseful/ apologetic I'm happy to let things pass without lecturing/ confrontation etc as we've all been there. But so many people just act as though it's ultimately your fault for existing in their space.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,390 ✭✭✭Be right back


    I totally agree. What was he thinking? Putting himself in that position.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭Schorpio


    I agree - right or wrong, he was insane to put himself in that position.

    There is something to be said about the truck driver too. He should have just left the space for the cyclist to cut back in. Even if you disagree with the actions of a cyclist, the driver shouldn't put his vehicle in a position that makes a bad situation worse. Any deviation or wobble, and the cyclist could be under the truck's wheels.

    Poor cycling and poor driving, imo.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,904 ✭✭✭tnegun


    There is no way that could be considered safe cycling he's lucky he didn't end up under the wheel of the truck you simply do not deliberately put yourself in a place with no escape plus regardless of whether or not they should have seen and been aware him I bet the truck and car driver did not know he was there until very late any change in road position by either of them could have been fatal, neither and I wouldn't either, expect a cyclist to be splitting the lane like that on my outside!

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Cyclist overtook with oncoming traffic, it was beyond stupid. The driving is poor but 100%, everything that happened there is the cyclists fault. It just beggars belief. It's no different than the small mickey stuff you see when someone gets overtaken on the motorway and they make a point of getting that overtake back when there simply was no rhyme or reason for it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,390 ✭✭✭Be right back


    There's no logic to why he put himself in that dangerous position.. Beyond stupid.

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