Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

My cows are averaging over 8k atm and don't want to push them towards 9k, too much work so because of this I'm making no more profit just a 20% decrease in milk sales due to banding if I'm to stay out of derogation.

No I mean the place Kevin Moran had

yes I’m aware of the situation with Paynes and bournes too. Paynes owned all the cows and were to supply all the management.

For years Bournes were after Hickeys to be the partner but Hickeys weren’t interested. You can see why

The trouble with "red tape" is it adds cost to the business and the market will not reward you for it. This country is heading for a recession because our costs are going out of control in all sectors. Do they think there is the same red tape in China, Africa etc. We are operating in a world market . That is what you are competing with.

What will mostly happen there is the farmer will probably go to the landowner and tell him he can't afford to pay the 450 anymore and the landowner will have no choice but to negotiate a lower price or he will have to pay the tax back on the previous payments.

In the current environment that might be easier said that done

I’ll have aa little sympathy with the lad that offered it to the lad that took it ……pure greed ….lots of very good long term tenants who always paid up at fair rents got turfed out for more money

There’s always a hungry hero with a cheque book and short term view

Oh definitely,the greed from the landowner was unreal,throwing out loyal long term customers just so they thought they could earn a few extra bob. You would love if no one came in to take over the lease.

Only talking to a friend of mine the other day and they were giving 12k a year to rent a large parcel of ground(won't give the acreage). Anyway the lease was up this year so they went to the landowner to see could they get another lease. She was looking for for 16k. They said no way,that she could keep it. She said she heard that land was making up to 500/ac,my friend told her to work away and see could she get that money.

Eventually she came back to them and they negotiated that he is giving her a small bit extra alright now. She wanted to give him a 5 year lease but he said no,only a 7 year lease like they had before.

Local auctioneer was going leasing land out last year for a landlord. Highest bid came in at 500. The landowner asked him how much his neighbour was offering? Auctioneer said 370. Landowner said to give it to him,because he knew he would be guaranteed to get paid off him

One of them fella’s local gave 380 an acre and reseed and reclaimed the land and gave two years rent up front, has gone down with TB and on his next test will possibly be a total cull and the wife has left him. The previous fella was giving 110 an acre for the previous 10 years.