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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,978 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Moving their cash out of Russia? To protect it from Putin maybe? At one stage, he called the oligarchs together and told them that he expected more financial support for the war IE: Time to cough up boys, you have had it very good for a long time now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,978 ✭✭✭jmreire


    And not just the paint either...Those tyres are definitely not standard issue, unless it was a special issue off roader for the ESB, Forestry etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,320 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    I did the tyres myself.

    The concept was started by a New Zealand dairy farmer in buying Kei 4wd trucks in Japan and fitting atv tyres and rims and selling them to NZ farmers.

    I bought that one in this country from a garage who imported it from Japan and fitted atv wheels. I added wider rims and tyres again for the land on farm here. This can float on ground and climb any incline with 4wd hi low box. Travel 80km/hr.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,978 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Nice touch!!! A lot of well meaning people donate (amongst other things) vehicles, and for sure, vehicles of all shapes and sizes are badly needed in Ukraine, but 4 x 4's fitted with wider wheels and rough terrain tyres are especially welcome. I wish it a long and safe life. Well done!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,544 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    Number 8 wire mentality. I give you an upvote :)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,735 ✭✭✭macraignil


    Report that Ukraine continues to progress its liberation of the east bank of the Dnipro river:




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,638 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Jesus, fair play. I hope your handywork survives the war and gets to take part in a victory parade some fine day in the future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,021 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    Have you a link to what kind of vehicles they would take?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,978 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Basically, they will take any vehicle, provided its in good working order. 4 x 4s, with a good reliability history, ( Toyota ) would be especially welcome, spare parts in good supply, and easily procured. They should come with a good supply of standard service parts, engine oil, filters ( both air and oil ) Brake pads, Tyres, brake fluid and anti-freeze for the model supplied. Given the winter conditions now, a set of snow chains would be essential. I've seen donated vehicles which worked well, until they had a breakdown, and that was that, no spare parts readily available. This may sound like a wish list, but I've been there and those are basics. A reliable, dependable make, and enough standard service items to see it through its first year of service.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,320 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Someone from Wales came over and picked up mine on a trailer and drove their donated 4wd and trailer to Ukraine.

    They're looking for 4wds and it's better again if you can drive it over in the convoys to Ukraine. But they'll take a 4wd without driver.



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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    India are buying their airplanes from Raffale, so the point is that the Russian military airplanes (as opposed to SAM systems) are not in high demand is valid. The fact that confidence in Russia is so low that there was even a questionmark over whether India would buy SAM systems from them, is also telling.



  • Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭ Willow Fat Neckerchief


    Rather disturbing to read a story like this, but considering the state of the place under Putin, not surprising I suppose.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    True there. I was more annoyed that India were doing deals with Russia in regards their military. But least Ukraine are showing the world just how crap Russian made weapons can be so their will be a pivot in the futire that countries will never buy from them again even when this conflict is over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,978 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Further down on that thread on Twitter, the same scenes are shown again, but with English subtitles. It seems that the two guys getting hammered had given drugs to other members of their unit and another one, and most of the other unit were subsequently killed in a fight. This was their punishment. The guys digging the pit had used drugs, and were being taught a lesson. They had also invited the survivors of the other unit to come and take part.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,979 ✭✭✭thomil


    I guess it's also a side-effect of the fact that Khrushchev's secret speech following Stalin's death never led to any larger scale attempt to process the atrocities of the Stalin era. Once Khrushchev was gone and Brezhnev took over, that was it, any attempt at properly dealing with this was done. The uncomfortable discussions that happened in many German living rooms in the 1960s (including in my grandparents' home) never really happened in Russia, neither in the 1960s, nor after the collapse of the USSR.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    They tried to get India to part fund the original Sukhoi Su57 programme until the Indians realised that there older Sukhoi aircraft could detect the Russian Su 57s even though they are supposed to be a 5th gen stealth aircraft



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    I dont know much about it, but it does seem that the Su57 is vaporware. Much like most of the superweapons announced by Putin in 2016, not even the Russian armed forces are spending money on them. Their claim that it is better than the F35 but 1/3rd of the cost leads to the old addage that if it sounds too good to be true.....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Where the Americans have been producing and flying new design Stealth aircraft since the 70s each one individual and unique to the next the Russians went with lets cheat a little and took an su27 fighter and modified it's airframe and and pancaked fuselage and blended it's wings into a single shape and decided it was a 5th generation stealth fighter, with the radar cross section 1000 times larger the the F35 , meanwhile the US are flying the 3rd generation stealth bomber and at least 2 other unidentified new stealth aircraft,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 840 ✭✭✭I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭Mike3549




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,320 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    How Putin wasted €100's of thousands on individual western journalists for propaganda.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,320 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Seems Finland has closed the border with Russia.

    Putin couldn't help himself. The Kremlin were flying in refugees from Africa and Middle East and sending them towards the border on bicycles.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,638 ✭✭✭Rawr


    I think that might be. Add this the fact that (if accurate) the Russian death-rate has been consistently hovering around the 1000 per day mark for quite a while.

    I hate to imagine the grim human-wave tactics being used to create such totals. There must be a tipping-point eventually for the Russians where this simply won't work anymore. Even on a good day I can't see how they can create 1000+ mobniks a day, deliver them to the killing fields and keep that rate up forever.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    The losses of equipment and men must be very apparent to Russian troops on the ground. Word would get around and infiltrate all ranks which has to be having effect on morale. Maybe they are told that the Ukrainian forces are taking even greater losses? We don't hear a lot about mutiny and soldiers abandoning their units/ surrendering etc but this must be an ongoing factor for the Russians. Maybe this is why they conduct their operations as they do, with less room for individuals adapting on the ground, they can't trust their own. If so, puts a high price on the Russian officer class, take them out and their forces are a rabble.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,651 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Kulyk was the prosecutor the EU went after. Well, just charged with treason and being Putins guy. Oh, linked to Trump's lawyer too.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,543 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    We've been hearing for quite some time that there aren't many experienced officers left in the Russian armed forces. It would certainly explain the extraordinary casualty rates they've been experiencing of late. Seems their only real input at this stage is to shoot their own troops who try to retreat / refuse to advance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,638 ✭✭✭Rawr


    I sense that even at the early stages of the war, the Russian Army was chronically short of experienced soldiers, with most of the half-decent fighters long since departed to make better money as part of Wagner or other PMCs. I remember especially seeing stories of surprisingly senior army brass getting KIA near the frontlines. It appeared that the generals were so short of any command staff that they had to travel to the frontline to manage the fighting personally, thus earning many of them an AFU bullet to the head for their trouble.

    I can't imagine it got any better over time. Now their more experienced soldiers are simply those who haven't died yet, and are likely keeping themselves that way by safeguarding a position as rear-guard executors. They can shovel mobniks into the meat-grinder and hold position at a safe distance while shooting anyone who retreats back. I suspect that Russia's war so far has done little to create actual leaders or professional soliders. Wagner was possibly their best shot of a coherant fighting force, but they've gone a pissed that away.

    Yet again, time is not on the Russian's side. As time progresses, their army becomes more & more reduced to untrained mobniks and unthinking slave-drivers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,176 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    While watching video footage of recent strikes on Russian forces, I found myself asking "... but why would they do this/react like that? Are they not trained to ... ? " and then I remembered that no, they're not trained because (a) there wasn't any time for training after mobilisation; and (b) the soldiers with real-world experience were killed a long time ago.

    I would imagine that word doesn't get around, as the groups with the worst losses are comprehensively wiped out, and it appears that a good number of those who survive are off their heads on drink and drugs, so would anyone pay heed to them - if they can even remember what happened?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭rogber


    We'd like to think that but people were saying the same thing this time last year and there seems to be just an endless supply of men they can call on to die for Putin.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,979 ✭✭✭thomil


    The thing is that the qualities that you need in a good combat officer, initiative, flexibility, a good grasp of logistics and basic leadership skills, are generally seen as undesirable in a strictly autocratic system. Even worse, they're seen as dangerous. If a lieutenant in charge of an infantry company moves his unit out of position to exploit a weakness in the flanks of an enemy position, instead of sticking to the plan and executing a frontal assault, how can you be sure that that same officer will stay loyal and in his place? While even western militaries tend to prefer the "parade ground officers" over the "rat catchers" during peace time, just look at the US Strategic Air Command in the 1970s, the Royal Navy prior to WW1, or the Bundeswehr prior to its deployments to Kosovo and Afghanistan for examples, from what I can gather, command courses at least try to instill independent thinking and initiative in officers and NCOs.

    That never happened in Russia. The Russian military has never placed a lot of emphasis on NCOs, going back to tsarist times, and especially during the Putin years, looking menacing in the annual victory day parade on Red Square was seen as vastly more important than being able to outflank an enemy on a battlefield. And if we're honest, while the Chechen wars were absolutely brutal, there was not a lot of strategic or tactical finesse that was required in those fights. So Russia's officer & NCO corps was already at a major disadvantage at the start of the conflict, and things have only gotten worse since.

    What's worse is that Russia HAD great officers in the past. While Russia's efforts in WW2 are often portrayed in public as pure human wave attacks, Zhukov, Bagramyan, Timoshenko and other Red Army officers did actually show quite a bit of creative thinking in their offensives, and all were acutely aware of the massive logistics pipeline they needed to keep their fronts moving. All of this institutional knowledge seems to have been completely lost.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



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