Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

How can they do that while the political leaders who fund the military wing remain untouched in Qatar? Leaving that aside, as Yitzshak Rabin realised, you can't defeat an ideology through purely military means. Hamas will be severely weakened, but they will,or some offshoot of them , rise again

Do you really believe in the absent of a political solution Israel will have complete security after the war ends for years to come? If you are truly pro "securing the region " you should be pushing for the end of Bibi alongside Hamas, and you should be hoping moderates on both sides take over, If not the region will never be truly secure and there will be another war at some stage along the line.

This is what I believe

* The Hamas attack on 7/10 was a horrendous attack.

* Hamas have headquarters in the vicinity of some hospitals

*The IDF are carrying out certain indiscriminate attacks resulting in many civilian deaths.

* There are serious humanitarian issues associated with people having to evacuate their homes as a result of Israeli actions

* Hamas should release their hostages

* From a situation in 1917 where the population was 90% Arabic, the Palestinians have been screwed over

* The Jews have been one of the most discriminated races in history

* Jewish settlements in the West Bank are totally illegal.

A 2 state solution is the only option for a peaceful solution

Maybe they wont take it over because then they would have to show the world that great big command centre that's underneath it.

That doesn't explain who is shooting at them, unless you think that IDF is fighting itself..........oh wait, I've probably started off another conspiracy theory.

I wonder if the IDF will now blow a huge hole in the basement of the hospital and say '' there's the evidence of the tunnel ''? And then what? What will be their next target?

They will fill the hole with arms if they can't find any.

Bibi is gone once the war is over, Gallant will likely be his replacement.

A 2 state solution is over. Can't see any Israeli govt allowing it or the Israeli people allowing their govt to even suggest it.

To have societies in a state on either side of them where there is a constant stream about all the differing people that must be killed, no society will tolerate that, especially a society like Israel which views itself as having self worth and having an onus on protecting its people from extermination.

Southern Gaza may be administered by others as some type of canton with Israel taking out extremists as needed.

Northern Gaza will likely be an military controlled empty buffer zone. The self administered Arab communities in Judea and Samaria,will probably continue as such.

This has a long way to go yet and Israel will likely be fighting a multi front war shortly.

The leadership of Hamas abroad will be killed eventually, hopefully their operatives across Europe will be killed as well, anyone involved in a Hamas linked org in an ideal world.

Check some of the replies. One guy who has worked installing lifts reckons the supposed "tunnel" is a regular lift shaft you would expect to see in any normal building (he identifies and describes the various pieces of electrical equipment in the shaft).

IDF are such pathological liars at this point that nothing they say can be taken at face value.

Your link doesn’t mention Israeli soldiers being fired on from the hospital.

Mein Kampf in Arabic has always been a strong seller in the Arabic world though Book sales or publication has never been a big thing in the Arabic world so it's not as impressive as it sounds

Chairman of the Religious Zionist Party congratulates a couple of parliament members initiative to bring about a humanitarian solution.

" I congratulate Knesset members Ram Ben Barak and Danny Danon for the important initiative.

Voluntary migration and absorption of Gaza Arabs in the countries of the world is a humanitarian solution that will bring an end to the suffering of Jews and Arabs alike."

Man this hurts my head. We're going to create a humanitarian catastrophe but it's ok because everyone else can take on the burden. Totes not ethnic cleansing, it's a humanitarian mission. Everyone wins!

Yeah, it was in the WSJ yesterday. Forty countries 50K each sorted.

So people really think Israel and the IDF are targeting a hospital just to be evil ? And not because there is a military camp there ?

OK

Yes, it seems they have actually swallowed that propaganda. Nobody can answer my question as to what is preventing the Israeli tanks outside the hospital from moving in and taking over the hospital.