Munster Team Talk Thread - Beirne After Reading

Akrasia · 06-11-2023 11:27AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121327153#Comment_121327153

Joey was really good in the first game of the season, played poorly last week but now we know he was carrying an injury

The poor fellah has the absolutely worst luck

Akrasia · 06-11-2023 11:29AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121327552#Comment_121327552

Tom has been a class act every time he's fit and available.

Every time he goes down for attention I have a mini heart attack as his durability is the only reason he hasn't already been capped for Ireland

mahoney_j · 06-11-2023 11:42AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121331509#Comment_121331509

We’re in some hole now at 10 ….fingers crossed crowley stays fit …..butler going to see good bit of game time now as well which is good …..but lack of depth at 10 could cost us dearly

Akrasia · 06-11-2023 11:50AM

As Munster fans, the rugby season hasn't properly started until we get our first full blown injury crisis.

I fully expect Conor Murray to be playing out half in the ERC before christmas

phog · 06-11-2023 12:21PM

Sexton to Munster on a short term contract!

Imagine him winning a ERC cup with us 😂

https://twitter.com/jim_demps/status/1721449378953503203?t=1bQPZ7Ukh7rZUlmfjDoL8w&s=19

boccy23 · 06-11-2023 12:30PM

RG gone again? How long this time?

awec · 06-11-2023 12:35PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121331844#Comment_121331844

Surgery on a shoulder so you'd imagine that'll be a few months at least?

Cookiemunster · 06-11-2023 12:47PM

In better news the Irish internationals are all back in training this week and Nash hasn't been ruled out of Fridays game, so the injury can't be too bad.

phog · 06-11-2023 01:03PM

If there was ever a time when you could choose not to have having RG available it's the start of the season, especially, if we can keep Kleyn and Beirne injury free.

sioda · 06-11-2023 01:14PM

And more starting time for Edogbo and Tom Ahern. This is not a bad thing

phog · 06-11-2023 01:15PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121331870#Comment_121331870

One consolation, it's not his knee.

boccy23 · 06-11-2023 01:18PM

It just seems he is never available for his paymasters or at least not as often as could be. And is for SA.

Cookiemunster · 06-11-2023 01:30PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121332086#Comment_121332086

He didn't make a single appearance for SA between the 2019 RWC final and the 2023 Rugby Championship.

Rigor Mortis · 06-11-2023 02:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120065050#Comment_120065050

horrible luck for Snyman and Joey. As others have said, its the right time of year to get them sorted out.

Mr Tickle · 06-11-2023 03:10PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121329564#Comment_121329564

I only saw this now. What a strange move. Cool for Halfpenny, but I wouldn't have thought he's what the crusaders are looking for in an outside back.

Buer · 06-11-2023 04:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121332133#Comment_121332133

You're absolutely correct but the optics are poor. He still has more minutes for SA than Munster since he made the move. He was on their sideline in the 2022 summer when still injured in his Bok team tracksuit. And as soon as his test duty is up this time, he goes in for surgery again. It's hard to think his clear priority isn't SA.

The SA union are quite happy for their stars to go to Japan and Europe, get paid by someone else but be available and fully committed to the SA cause. I think Vermeulen at Ulster is as stark an example of it as any. He absolutely stole a living in Belfast relative to what he had done previously. And Coetzee left them absolutely high and dry, gaining an early release to return home before magically achieving fitness way ahead of schedule for the Bulls.

Regarding Snyman, the money would be put to far better use elsewhere. The rumoured departure of Kleyn is a far more concerning development.

KrustyUCC · 06-11-2023 04:17PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121331844#Comment_121331844

We have no luck with him and injuries

Hopefully surgery will be a success and he has a quick recovery

pickarooney · 06-11-2023 05:07PM

As long as Ahern and Edogbo stay fit, Snyman is an unnecessary luxury in the URC. He'd be handy for the European knock-outs.

Neil3030 · 06-11-2023 05:22PM

For anyone interested, the Kleyn departure rumours seem to be in Midi Olympique who claim that he is top of Lyon's shopping list to replace Taofifenua.

Jump_In_Jack · 06-11-2023 05:36PM

Can someone update the thread title to add the word "injured" 😜

Dubinusa · 06-11-2023 05:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121333105#Comment_121333105

Think you're right on Vermuellen. He was a different player for the boks.

mun1 · 06-11-2023 05:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121333105#Comment_121333105

Klyne was always going to be in high demand , as one of the best TH locks in the world.

“But the optics are poor” which of course is only your opinion , which you are perfectly entitled to on this discussion forum.

Agreed, we didnt get great return on Snyman due to injuries (not that he decided to have surgery for the fun of it), but when he was needed, in the URC title run in last season , he was definitely committed to the Munster cause.

no comment on your mid piece rant against SA and some of the other players.

CptMonkey · 06-11-2023 06:20PM

How long ago was the final? Seems strange that we are only hearing now about the injury. We haven't gotten any return on the investment really.

phog · 06-11-2023 06:39PM

Is there an international player in the world that would elect to have surgery during an international window, in particular in the lead up or during a RWC?

No, didn't think so.

clsmooth · 06-11-2023 08:24PM

Looks like great timing for Ahern and Edogbo to come through if both Kleyn and RG leave at the end of the season which looks like a possibility. In that sense, RG’s injury isn’t a bad one to get at this stage of the season to let the two young lads continue to get minutes and experience under their belts.

irelandrover · 06-11-2023 08:45PM

Kleyn leaving will be a disaster. He's been such a mainstay and a top performer in the team.

aloooof · 06-11-2023 09:13PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121334403#Comment_121334403

I think last season he started something like the final 18 games in a row. Unreal stuff.

leakyboots · 06-11-2023 11:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121334232#Comment_121334232

Agreed, the more gametime those two young players get the better as they look to have a hell of a lot of potential. You've Beirne to come back also. Wycherley is a good URC player, Coombes is covering lock pretty regularly to close out games since maybe last Feb/March? I think we're well stocked there, if the two SA do end up leaving it's a blow but not the end of the world. Would love to keep one of them though! Kleyn would be my preference, does all the dirty work and is a good man to shove a scrum

Pete_Cavan · 07-11-2023 08:18AM

Munster should be offering Kleyn a three year contract to get him to stay. They probably won't be able to offer him another contract after this so should be looking to lock him down longer than the standard two years.

He has been so robust thus far that there is little risk in it. He has earned every penny Munster have paid him so far, I'm sure he'll be well worth whatever it takes to keep him. Given the way SA cultivate locks, he might not have a big test career ahead of him either, despite how well he has been playing.

Quin_Dub · 07-11-2023 09:47AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121335757#Comment_121335757

Now that he is NIQ they will only be able to keep him or Snyman I would think and I'd agree they should keep Kleyn if possible but they may not be able to compete with French money for what will likely be his last shot at a big money contract sadly.

Munster Team Talk Thread - Beirne After Reading

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