Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

Agreed, and to add something else. If Israel had never moved to that part of the world, you would still have trouble there. Even if it was only "basic" Shia / Sunni wars. Thats just the way it is.

100 years ago Sunni and Shia Muslims, Christians and Jews lived quite happily side by side in the Levant region

You need to take that back too. I have never promoted murder of anyone. But this is war, innocent cilivilans die. The only murders here were the brutal abhorrent murders by Palestinian terrorists on October 7th. Israel is showing remarkable restraint in their reaction. Well I suppose not every one of them. That lunatic minister advocating dropping a nuke on Gaza thankfully immediately got sidelined. Even by right wing hard liner Netayahu

Yes you did. In the middle of a war with thousands of dead children, you defended it saying killing Hamas at almost any cost is correct.

So I'll ask you again. Would the complete destruction of Gaza and all its citizens be acceptable in order to wipe out Hamas?

Put a quantity on your statement "at almost any cost". If people in here are defending the bombing of children in refugee camps, ambulances, apartment buildings, and hospitals, as long as Hamas are present, then I think it is fair to ask how much of the population it would be acceptable to kill.

You have stated that these civilian deaths are not murders but are just terrible and inevitable deaths in the hunt for Hamas. So what is the number. 100,000? 250,000? 500,000?

When does the number get too high for you?

Yes I know. I lived there for several years, and in places they still do, especially along the coastal area of Syria where they are protected by Assad. I've worked with Shia's, Sunni's, Palestinians and Christians when I was in there , and never a bother, just ordinary people, whose biggest worry and problems were making a living to support their families. But its nothing like it was 100 years ago, far from it now. Everything has changed, and not only in the Levant either. Radical Islam is a big driver of unrest, even if there are no westerners / US around.

Sadly, now we agree. Not sure Hamas had counted on it being exterminated though, but we are not quite there yet.

To be honest, even 1 is too high for me. But that is sadly not they way war works, particularly not when it is waged by terrorists who use human shields.

I keep saying it, but nobody replies. If there is any other way to destroy Hamas, please show us. Hamas needs ot be destroyed though, otherwise they will keep doing evil.

Hamas leadership won’t be destroyed. And Hamas fighters have been brainwashed into seeing martyrdom as desirable. What you will have is 100’s of thousands of Palestinian children who see the fathers mothers brothers and sisters killed and only pain and suffering with no hope for a better future. Ripe recruiting ground for the next generation of Hamas. To destroy Hamas you must eliminate Its raision d’etre. Provide hope for a better future for young Palestinians.

You cannot bomb Hamas out of existence. Every bomb and civilian death just makes their numbers greater in the future.

Irish people should know this. If the Brits bombed the Falls Road and wiped out the entire IRA command, we'd still be stuck in the Troubles.

Why people support this doomed repeat of history, I've no idea.

Tbf I did a quick Google and this was one article on Wallace anyway in Nov ‘22 on the subject. However they’re definitely more vocal this time or perhaps more media, broadsheet and social media etc are reporting now too.

https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2022/11/24/mick-wallace-criticises-protests-in-iran-and-propaganda-against-regime/

OK.....all right so...

They mainly came into Ghaza from other countries.

So they did not grow up in those tower blocks one sees on tv.

Their parents and families don't reside in those places either.

They just, simply ... happened to be...

The indignation comes from the fact that these civilian deaths aren't some sort of price that has to be paid for the greater good. You seem to believe that indiscriminately bombing the shlt out of Muslims across the Middle East is some sort of valid tactic as if we haven't had decades of this proven false over and over and over again.

This "dirty horrible work" that you applaud Israel for doing on our behalf will directly lead to more Hamas, more terrorism, more bombs in Europe, more war, more instability, more refugees, and more Israeli deaths.

A simple child could be given a crash course in the history of bombing Muslims and understand that what Israel is doing is reactionary retaliation that everyone will suffer because of, including themselves.

Is there peace and harmony amongst Muslims or something that suggests I am incorrect?

"I could go on"

Please don't.