Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

But how do we know they are going to be reformed internally, what metric will be put in place. What extra content would the plan on making. As I said RTÉ we given a saving of 8m in 2022 and made a loss of 2.8m, most of that saving went over to RTÉ ONE Television did you notice any changes?

I have no problem with having to organise a new system of payment, but you have to see a plan and the CnaM must be able to see it happen.

You could start by increasing the % of money given to independent productions, at least there we can see a breakdown of what they are producing with that subsection of their budget.

I just don't trust them enough.

For me Kevin Bakhurst will have to present 3 document

1. Showing that they have reformed their governance
2. Showing what they would do if no changes are made for 2023 and what they will do without funding changes in 2024
3. Showing what they will do should they get a proper funding package.

However the government should also be organizing a transition from RTÉ to the split up of the organization should the above not be acceptable.

Initially For example the move of RnaG to TG4, and also the move of the CO and Lyric over to the NCH (These moves would save RTÉ 24m, TG4 and the NCH would see increases in funding to the tune of 10m for TG4 and 14m to NCH).

This is just my opinion.

They would argue that RnaG is largely speech based.

There are certain aspects from both TG4 and VMTV RTÉ should have been looking at over the years.

1. RTÉ should have decided that RTÉ2 would act in the same manner in terms of production as that of TG4 ~20m on independent programming, this wouldn't take from RTÉ2's sports output.
2. RTÉ ONE's daytime programming should be run exactly like that of VMTV, it is crazy to think that potentially Ireland AM costs less than Today even though it goes out 50 weeks of the year, 7 days a week.
3. Finally high quality programming on RTÉ ONE in prime time.

RTÉ can only close down services if they make a request to the minister, there is no way a minister will allow for Lyric to be closed. Their Strategy 2024 wasn't worth the paper it was printed on, it fail to take into consideration that the idea of closed down the digital station would have to be signed of by the minister.

I suppose you could look at it this way, if the minister and cabinet are not happy with the uncosted 10 point plan: -

1. To say to RTÉ that they will pay RTÉ until the end of 2023 so that RTÉ can insure financial security for this year.
2. Say to RTÉ in 2024 RnaG will move to TG4, which will get an increase in exchequer funding
3. Say to RTÉ in 2024 the CO and Lyric will move to the NCH, which will also see an increase in exchequer funding
4. Say to RTÉ to revise their plans based n the idea that they will no longer fund these part of the schedule
5. Say to RTÉ to reduce funding to 2FM until such time a better plan is announced, this means 2FM must survive on Ad revenue for 2024 alone
6. Say to RTÉ that the government will then support RTÉ base on their 2022 annual report for the service the are then providing, however a new plan must be shown.
7. Then we look the new plan and we start gain, if it is felt it is not good enough
8. RTÉ TV moves over to Screen Ireland (again increase funding to Screen Ireland, the commission news and current affairs from RTÉ)
9. Then we look at the new plan
10. Then we tell RTÉ they are gone gone gone gone
11. But otherwise if it is all good then get their nice little bail out. :)

I agree no matter how you look at it RTÉ is getting a bail out and a new funding structure.

The problem is they don't understand the privileged position that they hold.

Most of the audience in at the RTS event were of the opinion that it is a just a straight forward case of funding RTÉ, and disregarding ordinary audience members, and lets not mention the scandal of the mismanagement of RTÉ over the last 20 or so years.

It is crazy to think that RTÉ will be rewarded for ineptitude.

I didn't mean that as an rte problem, not actually sure how much of a problem funding really is for rte, more from a fairness point of view.

If they want to introduce a new model find, but lets not have the current set in RTÉ being part of it.

If you take the Finnish model and give it to RTÉ do you think RTÉ will be fair on how the redistribute the new funding that they receive?

As I say they didn't see to have a plan for the 8 m the saved on the NSO, except push it into RTÉ ONE and the Toy Show the Musical.

There needs to be oversight and any issues addressed. Like the losses at 2FM,the huge swath of the population they don't cater for,the rake of internet stations they,what are they for?

Money fight.

The absolute neck of these people

If I was Mr. Bakhurst I'd be scheduling a meeting with Fuffy, Byrne et all in the morning and discussing their imminent 40-60% pay cuts...

*Fuffy is obviously a typo, but I like it, and you know who I mean... so I'm leaving it....

Totally agree,I would say a fifty percent reduction in staff is quiet possible.

like is what was said,some of the channels on youtube have fantastic content ,good sound ,good picture,good editing and free.