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Random EV thoughts.....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭denismc


    I just bought my last 10 Euro of diesel ever today! Its the end of an era for me!, we are now a 2 EV household.

    Our 15 year old Octavia is being replaced with a 2 year old ID3, I was kind of surprised at how much 2nd hand ID3 prices have dropped in the last few months, they are pretty much on par with 2nd hand petrol and diesel Golfs now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,308 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Lotus testing their new EV in Wexford..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,159 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    I thought the door was dented in near the front wheel arch in the first picture on first look.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭Redfox25


    I thought it was an EV6 from the first glance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,411 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55




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  • Posts: 1,125 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Noob question. Is there a good app that can map out journeys and suitible charger locations? I think Tesla have one in the car.

    But something like Google maps but with the range of the car factored in? Toying with buying an electric car. But don't want to have to sit around waiting on it to charge too much.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 854 ✭✭✭CivilEx




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,704 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    A better route planner.

    Its worth noting that you get to know the range of the car, and many don’t use any third party apps etc

    I don’t personally use any of them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,137 ✭✭✭eire4


    My Mustang Mach E does that for you when you plug in your destination.



  • Posts: 1,125 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That's a pretty ugly side view. A dent or two might help it



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,411 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,308 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Meanwhile on the M50…

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 238 ✭✭grumpygit


    If he/she had their arms folded they could probably blame the car and get away with it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,241 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Caught them from over 400m away. That's impressive. I wonder do the traffic corps keep a table of furthest catches.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,184 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    A Random thought no less but might be helpful to those with home charging(of any type) and you work from home. You are entitled to 30% on the cost of electricity, broadband and heating in 2023, I do my returns such as a balancing statement with revenue after year end payroll is finished(so January), and filling in and uploading the bills is a task in itself but 30% can be a lot of money.

    As I am charging more now that I have a PHEV my electricity bill has gone up(petrol pump costs gone down) but I couldn't get a return for the petrol but I can on the electricity.

    More info if you didn't know about it: https://www.revenue.ie/en/jobs-and-pensions/eworking/how-to-claim.aspx

    You can go back and claim for previous years also.

    You don't need an electric car obviously but seems, as a random thought, those home charging will actually further reduce operating costs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,308 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    yep, been doing that for a number of years now.. and usually received the rebate within a week or so...but since Covid processing time has increased to months...



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    You'd also want to download invoices if changing supplier

    My stuff on Adverts, mostly Tesla Pre Highland Model 3

    Public Profile active ads for slave1



  • Posts: 534 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's 20%/40% (depending on your tax rate) of 30%, so not as much as you think and can be claimed like every other tax credit live. Upload and claim each bill as you get it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,606 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    What if your bill for the last 12 months was negative?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,308 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I submitted for the amount of the previous years bill (I.e. excluding the reduction of my annual bill thanks to having Solar PV, which was roughly a grand), and was actually selected for audit where they wanted copies of all my bills for the previous 12 months… so I submitted them thinking I was roused, but they said nothing and still paid out based on the higher bill amount I submitted…

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,606 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    The problem I have is that, in addition to the three government credits, we got solar in September last year so I'd have to go back further but we only moved in here in may last year!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,493 ✭✭✭sk8board



    firstly, ignore the clickbait title - there’s lots of great motorway (70mph/113kmph) efficiency data here, comparing the ID4, ioniq 5, Mach E and model Y LR - all driven on the same day at the same time on the same motorway journey at the same speed, throughout 2023 on a frigid day, mild day and warm day.

    they even spaceed out the cars on the road so they aren’t affecting each other with drag or sudden braking/acceleration.


    bottom line, the best motorway winter range they achieved on a full battery was:

    ID4: 273km

    ioniq5: 294km

    mY lr: 299km

    mach e: 302km



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,386 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Very flawed test. Based on the GOM 🤣

    They should have run the cars down until they drove no more. It is well known that Teslas in general have a significant range left when 0 range is indicated. It seems the testers are very inexperienced with EVs 😂


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    Personally I regularly do trips in the Tesla where the very accurate GOM indicates will arrive home at 0% or even minus 1% or minus 2%. I wouldn't dream doing this in any other EV I own or have owned, unless I was certain it could do it (most can't)

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,704 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    “there’s lots of great motorway (70mph/113kmph) efficiency data here”

    If they really used the GOM’s for this test then it’s no better then a guess.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 866 ✭✭✭amdaley28


    There's another test here which might be better.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvwOa7TCd1E&t=10s



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,493 ✭✭✭sk8board


    They did a 275km motorway journey where even with GOM the best performing car was only 25km more, so all the cars were well under 10% and it’s pretty accurate for those of us doing huge amounts of motorway miles at that speed roughly.

    anyhoo, it is what it is, a good real world comparison of 4 cars run in identical conditions. It’s like 4 of us driving Dublin-Cork on the motorway and comparing efficiency when we got there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,386 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Funny you mention that. The EV owners facebook group did a Dublin-Cork-Dublin race a few years back. Guess what car won it? The Hyundai Ioniq with just a tiny 28kWh battery. Goes to show battery size / range isn't all that relevant these days even for very long trips.

    And the winner was our own @ELM327

    I'd say you'd do a cross continent 3000km trip in a bog standard Tesla Model 3 €40k quicker than you'd do it in a €200k top spec Porsche Taycan

    It would be helpful though if car manufacturers had to state range until empty at 21C at 120km/h GPS speed for comparison. WLTP is useless for when range really matters. In the WLTP cycle they reach 120km/h once, just for a few moments. A very bad indicator of motorway range.

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,606 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    That race was fun, multiple SPOF chargers and I was the only EV going at (or slightly above!) the speed limits. Love the Ioniq28.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,787 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    Battery for fully charges 62v leaf seems to drop percentage quote sharply at first but then is much more efficient after the first 10 or so percent.

    I'm still getting around 300km from it including around 100k motorway driving but wondered what the initial drop is about



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,787 ✭✭✭rocky


    Might be because it can't regen as much with a full battery



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