Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

I already explained how and why she is wrong on Article 19, I have also explained how much of her analysis rests on the definition of Occupying Power which is disputed.

As for the lobby groups, they are lobby groups, anything they say should be taken with a grain of salt. There isn't a single government or country in the world that Amnesty approve of.

Please take your time to critique everything and prove all the breaches of international law are in her head. There are many of them listed.

Please prove that she is wrong on every heading. You attempted one so far.

Ruth FitzGerald SC: International humanitarian law in the conflict between Israel and Hamas | Irish Legal News

I will be back at 3pm, so do take your time. There are several headings to cover.

No idea where you've taken that from my post. I was ridiculing the comparison between South Korea, where our Taoiseach is currently on a trade mission, and the Gaza Strip.

When you look at the Joe Brolly incident and consider how different the reaction would be if he made the red crescent in to a swastika or worked it in to the Shahada flag of Hamas.

The storm of outrage would be incredible and from the same people lauding him now, he would also need police protection for a long time.

When you consider that near a million Muslim civilians have been killed in about the last decade in countries neighbouring Israel, often targeted deliberately and first over military targets, a miniscule response from the "activists" but as soon as Jews are being burnt alive it's whooping outside the Israeli embassy in Dublin and condemning Israel before a bullet is fired back.

It's not about human rights, all life is precious, etc etc when if Assad or Arabia were doing this it would hardly make the news.

That's before we look at conflicts like the Congo where millions of civilians have died in brutality that makes the Israeli Hamas war seem clean.

Israel are Jooooos though and too many on the left today see the war there as part of the fight against global capitalism.

North Korea does not prevent any ships from docking in south Korea, so it's absolutely nothing in comparison.

No point discussing the Rafah crossing again, it's been bombed over 4 times by Israel when Egypt was looking to allow aid through.

I might have missed it but did someone say the elimination of the state of Israel? I've been v clear on my stance of a recognition of a the two state solution by all parties pertaining to the 1967 border. And I would say nearly all have stated that too. Open to correction...

New law to be brought in.

The Rafah crossing is going to end up like Swiss cheese, a flat open plain that a 1000 abreast could walk through.

And the sea ports? Does north Korea have a sea blockade on south Korea? Does Israel have a sea blockade on Gaza?

Israel could argue that Gaza has nothing to do with them, not their responsibility, throw up walls, block border crossings (pretty much what they have done), however Israel blocking Gaza's access to the sea, turns it into a blockade. Collective punishment.

Well, there are people complaining on this thread about a blockade of Cuba.

In reality, there are no blockades caused by geography, they are caused by people. Cuba isn't under a blockade because most countries, even the US, continue to trade with it. Ditto South Korea.

Unfortunately for Gaza, the only country willing to supply Gaza was Israel. Despite all the platitudes from their other Arab neighbours, they weren't stepping up to help.

The thing about reading all the discourse these last few weeks instead of furiously posting is that you see things you might otherwise miss. I actually think that odious creature Piers Morgan is more balanced on this issue than the vast majority of the media. He has history in fairness in that he was against the Iraq invasion. Morgan is inviting on well spoken and ariculate Palestinian speakers and lets them speak freely while also inviting on raving Zionist headers like Shapiro who he also lets speak freely and show his true colours. It's as close as pro Palestinian as you can get in the media without being shut down.

Algerian parliament voted unanimously to delegate to their president the decision to go to a war with Israel. Africa starting also now.

I think the Israeli flags fluttering around the Glasgow rangers supporters club on the Shankill Road for years now is probably a give away alright.

Most countries just want to provide aid to the Gaza strip, not actually trade with with:

Long story short, Israel intercepted the ships and detained the crew. No aid reached Gaza via the sea. A blockade. Why are you ignoring the naval blockade and shifting all the blame/responsibility to Egypt?

There was a British commentator on the Claire Byrne show this morning saying UK politicians and many in the non right wing media are terrified of criticising Israel or speaking up for Palestinian people for fear of being labelled "anti-Semitic". They are clearly out of step with even their own population though - there is talk of a million strong pro-Palestinian march in London next weekend (awkward for the Israel lobby and right wing press).