Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

Ireland calls for a ceasefire at the UN, the only western country to dare utter the word up to now.

See my other post on that. I fear the ordinary locals would be ruthlessly put down by Hamas. Look how they dealt with their predecessors.

That is why I submit in my other post that those who are not in Gaza should now start to say to Hamas “enough”. Where are these voices?

Israel deserves criticism but so does Hamas and Hamas started the latest war. Why should ordinary Gazans suffer. Hamas should go.

Stop the rockets.

Return the hostages.

Surrender the terrorists who committed 7 October atrocities.

If not Western supporters should be calling for Hamas to go immediately rather than criticising Israel 24/7 which is if course music to Hamas ears.

If I'm a gazan who hates Hamas and what they did but now my home and my neighborhood has been destroyed, my family is dead and IDF is telling me to head south and im still being shelled there what am I supposed to do? Hear someone in Wyoming has #PalestiniansAgainstHamas trending, and?

Eu Council Conclusions, link not pasting

"In light of Hamas’ brutal and indiscriminate terrorist attack against Israel and the unfolding tragic scenes in the Gaza Strip, EU leaders reviewed the state of play and different strands of action, including concerted efforts to assist EU citizens.

In a follow-up to the statement they released on 15 October 2023 and the extraordinary European Council meeting held two days later, they also reaffirmed their:

• condemnation of Hamas in the strongest possible terms
• recognition of Israel’s right to defend itself in line with international law and international humanitarian law
• call on Hamas to immediately release all hostages without any precondition"

This should be the starting point for all discussion on the issue.

this would be the same israely military that deliberately target civilians, bomb schools and hospitals, engage in genocide ethnic cleansing and colonisation and land theft.

hardly a reliable source in fairness even though hamas are ****.

Another one.

there is a genocide, it is happening and it has been happening for over 70 years.

a genocide is the intended destruction of a people, which israel is engaging in in terms of palestinians in a drip manner.

the fact they haven't succeeded in destroying them does not negate a genocide taking place, because intent is enough.

I think you misread my post I'm being shelled in the south in this not-so-hypothetical?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/26/gaza-attacks-israel-war/

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If I associate Hamas I will be killed off as a 'human shield, can't be avoided' TM

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Haven't forgotten, it raises many questions how they missed training camps with kids holding mock AK47s for 2 years in prep for this attack.

Ah no...

No sunshine the real antisemities are the ones having a go at a country, which is primarily Jewish, that is trying to defend itself and it's citizens.

How would you like if gobshytes were out defending Afghanistan in the aftermath of the 911 attacks, and asking how dare US try and eliminate al qeada that was being supported by and harboured in Afghanistan.

If it was any other country that had this level of attack we would have the usual muppets out with candlelit vigils offering their thoughts and prayers.

Instead the muppets love affair with all things islamic just means they are supporting Palestinians in Gaza, which is effectively supporting hamas.

And if the same muppets weren't antisemities they might quickly distance themselves from the ones calling for the eradication of Israel and that the Jews be driven into the sea.

Instead they are quite happy to stand beside them.

Look up genocide term.

Just as bad as boggles and others.

agreed.

all though i do wonder if their military capabilities areas high as they claim.

they clearly do have high levels of fire power and air power etc.

but everything else like satellites etc and such capabilities of said technologies and the man power managing them?