Life passing by people in their 30s

Teachers and nurses can buy a house in Dublin.

Lovely 2 bed apartment in a complex I personally know to be calm and quiet. https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/apartment-apartment-7-rathlin-hall-waterville-terrace-blanchardstown-dublin-15/5459800

If you wanted a house, here's one below 250k in Finglas.

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/terraced-house-8-barry-avenue-finglas-dublin-11/5457492

Was just thinking of the TV show Friends, it must be nearly 30 years ago that it started and it was about people in their twenties living in the centre of a big American city. 

Ah jaysus. Even at the time, it was a running joke as to how these people could afford such massive apartments in the centre of Manhattan.

A council house is not considered "dead money". And they got a council house 40 years ago which they then bought and traded up from. My siblings own private. Its being called dead money thats hurting me.

Thats an odd interpretation of my post. But hey, thats your perogative.

What are you suggesting we should do then? Stop striving for economic growth and reduce our population?

Ask Google, Microsoft, Meta et al to quietly leave the building/Country?

And will all of the other countries buy into this Utopia you speak of?

I guess we would need to stop immigration, skilled or otherwise, from entering the country? In order to placate the population growth, since we cant ask anyone to leave?

Natural birth rates exceed our natural death rates, so how do we depopulate, considering we are not asking anyone to leave the country?

Economic Growth has been a key developmental metric for centuries and helps ensure the standard of living we are all used to.

As I said on a previous post, we live in a Capitalist world.

If the world changes in that regard and we are all going to live in a communist regime and in equal measure, sure we can re-evaluate how our economic prioirites are formed.

But until then, Dont hate the player, Hate the game, and all that.

My first property cost me 125k, 15% deposit. I bought in meath because as a single person I couldnt afford dublin prices.

Nowadays with 10% deposit you'd easily get one of those. In fact, I sold my meath place for 160k to a first time buyer, they had 10% deposit (16k) and the rest mortgage. They were a single person too. The notion that single earners on the average wage (I was on around 40-45k when I bought the meath place) cannot buy on their own is nonsense. Yes you can't buy a mansion or in leafy south dublin, but you absolutely can buy lovely places within commuting range.

Dont forget rent control, which on paper controls rent prices to make them affordable to the FRIENDS set but if that was reality there would be a lot of money and or other favours under the table.

I don't think they are bad moves to move forward with life. A friend of mine who I stayed over with occasionally, lived in the blanch apartment complex, which is why I know the area to be good. Irish people are very anti-apartment.

Selling over the asking is sadly common, we were outbid at 100k over the asking on a lovely house before we moved to wexford where we are now (and bought under asking).

The point I was making with those semi random listings I picked was to show that as a single person you can buy in dublin, even better and simpler as a couple.

Yes but it needs a 20% deposit. Thats the issue. Its needed to save 35k that makes buying out of reach. People have been saying this for years.

Good find. Lovely property.

He mentioned earlier though that his family would look down on him if he moved to Meath so it's out of the question sadly. (Sigh) 🙄

Its a 2 bed, so only 10% needed.

I am still not sure how you arrive at the conclusion that global consumption is owned and caused by me.

I dont set economic or environmental policy for anyone.

Your argument appears to be with every government in the western world and more besides it. Good luck with that.

I said previously that we should exist as sustainably as possible, but that doesnt mean we cant still expand our economy to support our population.

The two things are not mutually exclusive.

In terms of population growth, we have a long way to go. What kind of time period are you envisaging?

50 years, 100 years?

Currently, England has a population density 6 times our number.

Ireland is essentially fields outside of Dublin, so there is a lot of scope for population growth.

I agree we should grow sustainably, but the reality is that as a nation, we are not going to depopulate.

Wealthier western countries will experience increased population growth as a result of climate change and economic/geo political factors impacting other regions of the world.

So you may be better calling for a reduction in populations in Africa or Asia, because the highest increases in population will come from those regions, not from Ireland.

And as you said yourself, people migrating en masse is bad for the climate, so shouldnt we slow the population growth at source?

Namely, in the countries that are A) Creating the largest Output & B) Creating the largest waves of net migration.

Ireland doesnt sit in either category and indeed its population growth would slow if you directed your policy at the countries exhibiting mass migration.

Ultimately, the only way people can buy is with celtic tiger lending again. Thats ultimately what Im arguing for, 100% mortgages for people who have paid rent for 3 years without missing a payment. And instead of basing it on income it should be based on 75% of what they paid in rent per month as a monthly mortgage payment as they have proved ability to pay