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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    I see that the local Feis contestants have gotten more aggressive since the Irish dancing judging scandal last year





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,038 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Going to be busy times for Viktor Orban, who has said Hungary won't be the last country to ratify Sweden's membership.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭thereitisgone


    That's actually a pretty fair analysis how it all happened, America didnt have much choice but to go in at the beginning, defeat Taliban and get Osama

    But they should have walked away then, even though the world was saying you took over this country, now you need to look after them

    Afghanistan is like you say tribal, it was never going to work in the long term

    There mistake was trying to fix a country that some of the population didn't want fixing

    The majority i think did and the progress was great, but in the end the few that didnt want progress and just the old way won over

    The guys with the guns

    Very sad for the country, especially if you compare it to photos of Afghanistan in the 1960s, now they are set back 500 years compared to that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,970 ✭✭✭jmreire


    As m2-browning said, the US came to Afghanistan in the search for Bin Laden and other like minded operatives. They came when they decided, and left when they decided. While they were there, they did their best to modernize Afghanistan and bring it into the 20th century. In many ways they were successful. It's unbelievable the change's they made, and all for the better. Quite the opposite to what the Russians did in their 10 year tenure, which left Afghanistan in a ruined state. Only for Pakistan, the Taliban would be history by now, and maybe Afghanistan would be on the path to prosperity, and stability, but they would definitely be in a better place than under the Taliban in any case. No blame attaches to the US for the present situation. I've said this before, but its worth repeating, the US kicked the Taliban out of Afghanistan in a matter days, and they could do the same thing again now, and that's taking into account a better armed Taliban.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭SortingYouOut


    That all would sound great if you ignore the fact that the US left too early leaving their Afghan brothers, who they trained and broke bread with for years, far too early and at the mercy of the Taliban.

    Beverly Hills, California



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    According to reports Russia is expanding their assaults today with 90 different skirmishes being reported along the front from Avdiivka to marinka




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,970 ✭✭✭jmreire


    How long did you want the US to stay in Afghanistan? Out of the 20 year time line, for the first 15 years, the US financed and trained Afghans in managing their own Country, and for at least 5 years before the US pulled out, Afghans were running Afghanistan. The US left on the understanding and signed agreements with the Taliban that they would share the governing of Afghanistan with Hamid Karzai's government, and it would not be a return to the ways of the "old" Taliban. But the real reason is that even had they remained a further 20 years, there was no guarantee that there would be a different outcome. Pakistan, the creator and supporter of the Taliban would make sure of that. A strong and independent Afghanistan is the last thing they want.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,123 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Fresh ammo deliveries from China and North Korea?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    The Google translate version.

    (from Moscow and the Moscow region and other regions We are contacting you to understand the actions of our command upon arrival in the DPR, we were assigned to the 200th motorized rifle brigade to carry out storm tasks, our detachment suffered losses, the personnel of the fiber equipment we were sent and are sent to carry out tasks without reliable ones without a communications post, despite this personnel replenished all the assigned tasks; it is impossible to lose personnel to all the advisory proposals of the personnel of the brigade leadership and military unit 31 985, the commander himself of the 4th Kantemirovskaya Tank Division, HF 31 985, does not react, sets impossible tasks Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich)

    Note how they think they'd get more traction stating they're from the Moscow area. Didn't posters here say Putin and the military would be afraid picking conscripts from the Moscow region? Well they are picking them now. Look at that how you may.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,299 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Seems that Russia is making a little progress near Andeevka. Hopefully this doesn't become the next Bakhmut but they'll be determined to keep going so it's not a total loss on their end.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,299 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt



    Despite having probably close to 300k dead there's still 400k Russian soldiers in Ukraine. A huge number would be involved in logistics and not fighting but still. They're not going anywhere for a while yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 843 ✭✭✭m2_browning




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,332 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    So quite possibly heading towards some sort of “peace deal” or at least “talks”. ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭goodlad_ourvlad


    doubt it... Russia will still hurl Cruise missiles..

    if anything, if ATACMS supply continues, the mud will possibly be an advantage to Ukraine, even if it's only area denial.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭Glenomra


    Most people have lost interest in the Russian invasion. The Hamas attack, the rugby world cup etc has sucked the media coverage from the invasion which means less discussion about it among the general public. Also the failure of the Ukrainian offensive has disappointed many people. Now we have reports of a potential Russian offensive. I, Personally I don't have a clue where things go from here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭rogber


    The public has largely lost interest because let's face it these awful events are just another form of distraction and entertainment for many people, look at the frenzy on the Israel Hamas thread right now, in a few weeks it'll fade too and the thread will go quiet again when some other story takes over. Ukraine doesn't have the novelty factor anymore.

    But the wars go on and the misery goes on for those involved. What matters for Ukraine is getting the military and logistical support more than how many people are discussing it over pints in the pub. It needs big shifts to become news and there's little sign of that happening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,332 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    At the expense of sounding like it’s some sort of morbid “entertainment” , yes I agree. Whilst I had my doubts about the Ukrainian offensive earlier this year I really was hoping that they would make inroads. My guess now unfortunately is that Russia will play the long game and just literally throw men at this conflict, maintain a stalemate of sorts but very slowly make inroads overall.

    I think the international community will also adopt a different approach and may push for some form of talks to take place - Israel has taken the no1 spot for attention in terms of western nations- I don’t think this will end well for Ukraine and after all their spirit and hard work.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭goodlad_ourvlad


    that's probably the most naive take on international politics I've seen in a good while :-D

    It's not a case of "top news story takes precedence of all people and resources".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,633 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Russia playing the long game does not really bode well for them. I'd almost argue that it's more critical for Russia to sue for peace soon than for Ukraine. The main big hope for Moscow is that they can hold onto their current occupied territories until an administration hostile to Ukraine enters the White House. But there's no guarentee that will happen in the next US Election, and even if it did, it would take a while for such a change to damage the AFU's ability to fight back.

    Beyond that, time is now Russia's most deadly enemy. As time passes, they are exhausting what useful surpluss the Soviet Union built for a Cold War conflict that never happened. They do not have the means to replace what they are losing or to produce anything to match the quality of the NATO-grade weapons they now face. Their once immense fuel-wealth is being bled dry by the cost of maintaining a war-footing and to purchase bottom-shelf replacement equipment from their few remaining friends. Russia's ability to earn enough cash for all of this has been crippled.

    Russia now also faces a demographic time-bomb that was already primed to expode before all of this. Moscow has destroyed it's ability to maintain a sustainable birthrate. Young Russians are now dead or emegrated, and only a loonatic would willingly move to that country now. The grim reality is that in a short couple of decades the Russians might run short of people to bury their own dead.

    Ukraine wouldn't want to play the long game either, but at very least they have a friendly Europe to their back and likely a long-term wish to regain territory, rebuild with EU help, and get Ukrainian refugees to return home. Ukraine still has a shot at a bright future, but even if the war ended now the Russians face little more than grim darkness. Russia should not want to play the Long Game, because the Long Game...will end them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 843 ✭✭✭m2_browning


    Ukraine about to get 60 billion from Biden precisely because of the Hamas attack has;

    put Russia into the same axis of evil as Hamas and Iran and North Korea in minds of the US public who are the ones doing most of the helping while here in Europe we drip drip support and get held up by likes of Orban

    republicans can’t torpedo Ukraine funding now as it’s tied to Israel, Taiwan and Border Wall bill that landed on their desks last Saturday without doing immense damage to themselves in an election year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    I can't believe that some people actually think international politics is based on what's the lead story on the nightly news or what's grabbing headlines in the papers. Are people really that thick?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,543 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    I think anyone using the phrases "stalemate" or "failed counter-offensive" hasn't been paying attention.

    Ukraine have been systematically destroying the Russian occupiers for the past few months. Lines on maps may not be moving as fast as some observers would like but the AFU are quite clearly prioritising (and succeeding in) the destruction of Russian military leadership, logistics, artillery systems, armour and aircraft at the moment. They realised very quickly that there's no point in storming prepared defenses without air superiority and are now methodically removing Russia's ability to defend the territory they occupy in preparation for future liberation of that territory.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,794 ✭✭✭Hoop66




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭goodlad_ourvlad




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,647 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    The Terricon may still be in the grey zone (just about) but there is now a Russian flag on it going by videos this morning.


    The footage of Russians trying to assault this location has been unreal the past week. Simply tossing human waves into certain death like logs onto a fire. It's utterly depressing that they should attempt and claim any sort of victory out of it (like pictures of the flag for example) given the massive cost it has been.


    Imagine blowing your house up because the builder said they'd accidently left a 2 Euro coin in the foundations and then dancing around celebrating when you've found the coin. That's the kind of mentality here. Head scratching, mind boggling lunacy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 843 ✭✭✭m2_browning


    Plus they basically rendered Black Sea fleet impotent and having to hide this year

    This is a country without a navy…

    And only last week destroyed 6% of Russian helicopter fleet worth 230 million for the price of 2 million for the handful of 30 year old and nearly decommissioned ATACMs missiles donated by US



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,123 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    That’s a bit worrying.


    If Ukraine lose Adrivika it’s huge, it’s definitely bigger than anything Ukraine have regained in the counter offensive.

    Russia seem happy enough to keep throwing bodies to achieve gains and it’s working.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,543 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    How exactly is it working? They're destroying their own military capability in exchange for territory they need that military capability to hold.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,751 ✭✭✭Apiarist


    You are absolutely correct about what Russia needs. It needs to finish the war asap and to get rid of Putin and his conies. But that is not what Putin needs. He wants to be re-elected in 2024 with the population believing that he won and he wants to stay in power until he dies. Sure, he has health issues, but he has thousands of specialists keeping him alive and he may live for another 20 years. Losing the war is good for Russia moving forwards a more normal society, but it would be a death sentence for Putin.



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