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M8 motorway (general thread)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,030 ✭✭✭cantalach


    Google Maps has a specific feature to tell it the time of day you want to arrive:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,083 ✭✭✭niloc1951


    Realtime journey time can be found here https://www.dunkettletraffic.ie/

    The ones relevant to your journey are M8 J18 Glanmire North to N40 J6 Kinsale Road for the mornings and N40 J6 Kinsale Road to M8 J18 Glanmire North for the evenings. Just have a look, around the times you plan to be traveling, to get an idea of a relevant journey time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 62 ✭✭BestWestern


    Are there any plans to build a M7 northbound to M8 Southbound flyover, and vice versa?

    Same question cand be asked regarding the M9 Junction too?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,915 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    I don't think so - it would be a lot of money to save a small amount of drivers a small amount of time.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,215 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    Not that I know of - the original plan had been for two junctions - one regular one on the M8 and one regular on the M7 close to the interchange, that would have linked with local roads and would have done that for cheap. ABP told the Government to remove those from the plan as they would have gotten in the way of these flyovers should they build them. But now, nothing is happening and there is no plan.

    It wouldn't ever cater to much traffic but would be REALLY useful.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,820 ✭✭✭KrisW1001


    A direct interchange would be stupid, conisdering how the two roads meet: you’d be making a long hairpin.

    M8 is missing a J2 south of the split, and N7 is missing a J20 west of the split. That’s how the movement would be handled, but there’s really not much in the way of a traffic source or destination that needs to be accommodated here. Most motorists will have turned off M8 further south, or will leave N7 further West.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭dublincc2


    Just having a read of what’s available of the 1998 road needs study and it says that the N8 should be built as DC from Portlaoise to Cork with bypasses of all the towns on the route.

    Of course in the event a motorway was actually built, but I am curious as to whether this proposed DC was to be an online upgrade from the current J17 M7/N77 junction or a completely new route like the M8 albeit as a dual carriageway instead of motorway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,820 ✭✭✭KrisW1001


    That DC is the M8. N8 was dualled in stages from the 1990s to the end of the 2000s. In 2008, all of those "High Quality Dual Carriageway" primary roads were redesignated as motorways:

     https://www.irishtimes.com/news/just-under-300km-of-roads-upgraded-to-motorway-1.945503

    The original junction between N8 and M7 was to be at M7 J17 Portlaoise, here (choose “more dates, 2009” if it doesn’t show the old image: County Laois - Google Maps

    Note the extra left lane behind the barricade blocks. This was to provide a “free flow” join from M7 to N8, but to my knowledge it was never opened to traffic. It was removed sometime in the early 2010s.

    Sometime in the early 2000s, the junction was moved west of Portlaoise, most likely to allow a bigger interchange, but also to shorten the total amount of motorway needed: the old N8 (now N77) is 28 km from M7 J7 to the northern end of the N8 Urlingford bypass, with the current layout it is just 13 km.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    Interesting, didn't know about that phantom slip road.

    Was the toll originally supposed to be east of Portlaoise, or was moving the m7/m8 junction beyond the toll just a happy coincidence?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,820 ✭✭✭KrisW1001


    There would have been no toll back in the days when N8 was not planned as a motorway - in those days (pre-2000), tolling was only applied to bridges and tunnels, although lobbying from Cork TDs prevented the Lack Lynch Tunnel from being tolled. I believe the new M7/M8 interchange was planned without a toll, but by the time it came to design, it had been decided to build this as a PPP, with the toll revenue going to the private funder of the build (Celtic Roads Group).

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭dublincc2


    Would the N8 from that junction have been HQDC? In 1998 it was referred to simply as a ‘dual carriageway’ which I don’t think was the standard which the HQDCs became back then.

    Here is the relevant section:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭Pale Red


    I heard that Mary Harvey as leader of the PDs (remember them) amended the NDP to change the inter-urbans from DC to motorway. I think it had been motorway to Portlaoise and DC to Cork and Limerick. Much of M4, M6, and M9 to be DC.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    The roads in question were built as HQDC and redesignated motorway with little in the way of upgrades changes other than signage, it was more or less a paper exercise rather than any design changes or upgrade.



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