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Israel/Palestine Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭TedBundysDriver


    Don't watch CNN if you think that's bad. It's been wall to wall kill the Palestinians for 3 solid days now. I remember these networks used to just report the news not promote an agenda.

    Amnesty International’s new investigation shows that Israel imposes a system of oppression and domination against Palestinians across all areas under its control: in Israel and the OPT, and against Palestinian refugees, in order to benefit Jewish Israelis. This amounts to apartheid as prohibited in international law.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭SortingYouOut


    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/378262

    Well the agency reporting this openly identify as religious zionists, so I guess it's best to wait until we hear more about this one before we use it as a stick to beat either way.

    Beverly Hills, California



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭Longing


    Wow people posting baby's were not beheaded its like nothing to see here. Its confirmed the baby's were killed beheaded or not I think the latter was lost in translation. But some posts on here believing its Israel looking for support for what's to come.

    Other news I see the UK government see the Palestinian flag has a symbol of terrorism. Quote; Waving a Palestinian flag on British streets "may not be legitimate" if it is done to show support for acts of terrorism

    Hamas have really f~%ked up the only thing the ordinary Palestinian people had has a symbol has been tarnished.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,295 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Harrowing scenes on BBC news at moment.

    Early on Saturday morning, Hamas attacked and butchered unarmed civilians with no mercy.

    Men, Women and children.

    They decapitated some.

    It is great that the Irish ppl support Israel in completely eradicating Hamas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    260 children killed in Gaza now. Terrible.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Apologies....

    He's shot down airliners, invaded and illegal Annexed territories from Georgia and Ukraine, he's bombed over 100 hospitals in Syria and a Similar number of medical centres and schools , and invaded Ukraine again mainly targetting civilians and civilian infrastructure, Aleppo in Syria has been getting bombed again for months and now he's concerned about Palestinian civilians ,

    He's a psycho



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭TedBundysDriver


    Amnesty International’s new investigation shows that Israel imposes a system of oppression and domination against Palestinians across all areas under its control: in Israel and the OPT, and against Palestinian refugees, in order to benefit Jewish Israelis. This amounts to apartheid as prohibited in international law.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,713 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,050 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Indiscriminate bombing of urban areas is considered a war crime by the Geneva conventions, which Israel is a signatory to. Illegal settlements, forced deportation of previous occupants and transfer of ones own population into previously occupied areas is also considered a war crime and against the Geneva conventions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭SortingYouOut


    That flag is still flying on Leeson Street. The UK haven't declared the Palestinian flag as a terrorist symbol, you've taken that arseways.

    Anyone waving that flag supporting the killing of innocent Israelis is a scumbag and anyone waving the Israeli flag supporting the killing of innocent Palestinians is a scumbag.

    Beverly Hills, California



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  • Site Banned Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    As Hamas knew exactly what their actions on Saturday would provoke.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭TomTomTim


    "If you don't side with the Jews, the most oppressed group in human history, you're a holocaust loving antisemite"

    Do you really think any of this childish rhetoric helps at all?

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,130 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Yeah they’re obviously on their own personal warpath - they’re not there to promote the interests of the ordinary citizens that’s for sure



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭Augme



    Oh, I'm sure you really do hope that alright. But until Palestinians do, you've no problem seeing Palestinian women and children starved to death. The ends justify the means after all. 👍



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,050 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    City bombing wasn't necessarily considered a war crime during the period in question. The Hague Convention allowed loopholes that, essentially, permitted indiscriminate bombing. These loopholes were later tightened up after the war with further additions to the Geneva Conventions and today such bombings would be consider war crimes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,797 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    We all know Israel has their hands deep in blood for what they've been doing to Gaza for years now

    But Holy fcuk how can any decent person support the Hamas attack. It was a massacre against civilians.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭SortingYouOut


    https://x.com/malonebarry/status/1711785957140070697?s=20

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    Senior editor at Reuters with a fair warning. Take anything online with a pinch of salt, from either "side" in this.

    Beverly Hills, California



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,439 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    You excused and whatabouted the massacre of civilians. That is all.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    If you're so upset about innocent children being killed, why don't you post the total numbers? Both Israeli and Palestinian children. They're all innocents.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,767 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    The projection from some is strong in this thread. The poster a few pages back claiming others are involved in deflective clownery is oblivious to his own selective outrage and deflection due to his own political leaning.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,050 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I wonder what the ratio is of posters in the Ukraine and Russia threads decrying Russian bombardment of Ukrainian towns and cities, while at the same time excusing Israel's bombardment of urban areas in Palestine?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,439 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    The story about the beheadings has been verified by other journalists, including a French journalist who was at the scene and the BBC has reported it as well, along with Reuters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭SortingYouOut


    Israeli media reporting that authorities did receive warnings from Egyptian intelligence about the Hamas attack. Have seen a lot of Israeli media out for political blood, they rightly want heads on plates for this oversight or whatever it was.

    Beverly Hills, California



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,050 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Here, I bolded and italicised the relevant part for you...

    There's likely more civilians than armed terrorists,it's not too difficult to figure out



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,439 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Anti - Semtic nonsense tbh.

    Hope you are proud.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭TomTomTim


    This conflict shows how biased everyone is. Take Russia and Ukraine, where many would see it as a clear good against evil battle, less clouded than this conflict. When any claims are made about anything Russia has supposedly done, there's not a hint of scepticism, everything is factual, no matter the quality of the source. Yet here everything is scrutinized, questioned to the death, by the very people who blindly believe everything they are told in regards to Russia. Scrutinizing is essential in times of war, I just wish people would do it all the time, and not when it suits them.

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    And yet it's not so difficult,it's happens all over the world, ordinary Joe's taken down armed criminals .

    What's so surprising



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,050 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    It's kinda funny people complaining about unvarified claims and misinformation then go and immediately post unvarified misinformation



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    It's not about keeping score like a football match. But if you have the numbers for "both sides" then please post them.

    The international community should be trying to reign in Israel to prevent further deaths.



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