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Celtic Symphony: Ireland v Scotland. 8pm Saturday 07th Oct. Paris. RWC 23

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    #752
    SaoPaulo41
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    Really really hope Hansen and Lowe are OK for next week. Lowes eye looked fecked though



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    #753
    nacho libre
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121207999#Comment_121207999

    Haven't I seen you somewhere before? With your last sentence in mind did hear the 100 caps man interview after the game ? Brilliant stuff:). If this Irish team don't get the monkey off their back then none will. They have confidence and momentum now. The defense last night was superb in the first half. The teams who tend to go far in World Cups tend not to cough up many tries. Ireland is now this kind of team.



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    #754
    FrancieBrady
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121208402#Comment_121208402

    I knew we would score our chances before the game. That defence in the first half though! Impenetrable and if we continue playing like that it is going to present a huge challenge to anyone.



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    #755
    thinkabouit
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    What a squad, i dont think there’s a single player in Scotland Wales or England that would make that Irish team.



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    #756
    lawrencesummers
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121208432#Comment_121208432


    Andy farrell is a shoe in to coach the lions at this stage as well, he has it all, experience on tour, experience of the best players, and success as a head coach.

    In fact there isnt even a conversation to be had about it. Its his to turn down.



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    #757
    Buddy Bubs
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121208446#Comment_121208446

    What a joke the lions will be. Wales hockeyed Australia on their own.

    I've fallen out of love with the lions anyway I just don't know where it fits in nowadays that European teams as are strong as the southern hemisphere teams and club/provincial teams without their internationals can't really compete with the might of a combined 4 nations team

    I don't know where Australia are getting 6 teams outside the Wallabies to play. Wallabies prob be better than they are now but that wouldn't be difficult.

    Lions should go to France in future if they are to continue!

    Play Toulouse, la Rochelle, Clermont etc...



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    #758
    Cluedo Monopoly
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121208469#Comment_121208469

    Actually a short Lions tour of France is a great idea.

    Any updates on the injuries?

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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    #759
    Buddy Bubs
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121208487#Comment_121208487

    New Zealand and South Africa lions tours are ok, they have a bit of depth to make games competitive and could win test series. Australia cannot and don't see that changing.

    France could provide a great test series and good warm up games.

    No idea on injuries yet I wouldn't say that will be released for a while



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    #760
    [Deleted User]
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    Scrap the Lions and have a true European knock out tournament.

    Seeding based off 6 nations and Championship standings


    Would massively grow the game, in Europe, but will never happen for "reasons"*


    *Reasons being money



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    #761
    walshb
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    Any betting odds up on NZ/Ireland?

    Thinking NZ will start slight favorites



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    #762
    phog
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    Brilliant game from Ireland, we had Scotland beaten before they knew the game was started. If we hadn't lost the two wingers we could have nilled Scotland, they looked shell shocked.

    Very attritional game but aside from the trip & subsequent scuffle nothing very dirty in it.

    We can beat the current NZ team which will create a bit of RWC history for Ireland, hope we have one of Lowe or Mack back for it and if I was to choose it would be Mack, himself and Aki are our player of the tournament.



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    #763
    Buddy Bubs
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121208548#Comment_121208548

    Ireland are -1 so the slightest of favourites

    France are also -1 against South Africa

    Ireland and France 3/1 to win tournament

    New Zealand and SA 7/2

    So the bookies not separating them by much

    Next favourite is England at 12/1

    I'm not really a gambler but I'd back France and us in quarters but France to win it. If SA best France next Sunday I'd fancy us to win it out if we are still in after Saturday



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    #764
    TRC10
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    Is anyone really surprised with how that game went? I'm certainly not. That's what Scotland do. Talk themselves up, think they're far better than they are, and invariably utterly fail to back it up and get humpped. I'm amazed there were Irish fans who were nervous about that game.

    Anyway, next week is what matters. Not pool games against minnows. Roll on the biggest week in the history of Irish rugby.



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    #765
    the.red.baron
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121208570#Comment_121208570

    The odds the bookies give you are not the actual odds of winning, just to give you no value on a bet



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    #766
    kuang1
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121202214#Comment_121202214

    Don't get to do this often... No money made on it unfortunately!



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    #767
    mr_edge_to_you
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    In the airport waiting on the 1st of our 2 flights home today. Brought my 9 yr old over. What a great experience! It's fantastic to be able to being a kid to game and sit around opposing supporters and everyone shake hands after. As I said on the buildup thread - he's been following following rugby for 4 years been to a few internationals at home and countless Leinster games. It was a privilege for us to be there for O'Mahonys 100th cap and he finally got a chance to see Sexton playing for Ireland.

    I really wanted to hate the "kiss cam" but it was great fun.

    Thought the 1st half, Ireland were top class. I reckon that once they got to half time they just took their foot off the gas knowing the job was done. I often feel like that in work when I'm working to a deadline. You submit your reports on a Thursday morning, you are psychologically drained and are no good until Monday.

    Thought the entire pack did well. Special mention to the Centurion and that 2nd row of Beirne and Henderson is powerful. Line-out was a joy to watch.

    Backs was a bit of a mess given the changes but they did well. Big Stu did particulary well when he came on. Should we be concerned about options on the wings?

    I'm excited about the prospect of Ireland taking on New Zealand. Don't think any other team brings out that inner beast in O Mahony like they do. That stadium last night was like a home game.

    Edit:

    Yikes didn't see the updates on Hanson and Lowe



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    #768
    lawrencesummers
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121208570#Comment_121208570

    I reckon the best bet next weekend is to back the draw in both late kickoffs.

    All 4 teams well matched playing 10 man 3/6/9 rugby should make for low scoring affairs

    At 16/1 i think i might make a visit to the gambling shop



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    #769
    stephen_n
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121208035#Comment_121208035

    Saying it doesn’t generate comment other than “he’s the shooter, it’s fine” suggests you either don’t understand what that means. Or you’re just ignoring its importance for your narrative. Unfortunately I suspect it’s the latter.



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    #770
    Kermit.de.frog
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121208161#Comment_121208161

    We did lose the second half. Just a statement of fact.

    https://twitter.com/bensmithrugby/status/1710940935423467836

    Yes there where a few changes but let's take Conor Murray for example. I'm amazed no one has yet mentioned his culpability in both tries and his overall decision making.

    Ignore if you wish but we got exposed in the last 15 - 20 minutes in that game, our performance level was so noticeably down, and no one wants to mention it.

    Worrying because I think it shows that when it comes to it our depth is more shallow than some seem to think.



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    #771
    munsterlegend
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121208562#Comment_121208562
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121208570#Comment_121208570

    Wouldn't underestimate the importance of Lowe and his kicking game either. Preferably both fit and ready but just have to see.



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    #772
    Dillonb3
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    Matera going off injured, big blow for Argentina



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    #773
    fitz
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121208767#Comment_121208767

    Ben Smith's take is reductive nonsense without any context...ignores all the other changes pretty much at the same time, and the fact that we were down both wingers.

    We got a bit disorganized and sloppy for a short period after the subs came on and leaked two soft enough tries. After the second one, the team got under the sticks for a chat, and we pretty much immediately sorted things out, and Scotland went back to having bugger all idea how to break us down.

    For sure there's things to address, but there was plenty of reasons for our game to be disrupted - I mean, Ryan was playing with one arm for the last 10 minutes too.

    We were far from perfect in the second half, but the game was done and dusted at that point. I don't see how anyone thinks that we'd take the foot off the gas like that against NZ, or manage our subs the same way.

    I hope Lowe and Hansen are fit for next week, I think with Hendo starting with Beirne and McCarthy on the bench, Ryan would be less of a loss than the wingers. Not saying he's not a loss, but I think we're better stocked for 2nd row cover.



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    #774
    aloooof
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,397 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121208625#Comment_121208625

    Pool games against minnows (including SA, btw) = “don’t matter”.

    Warm-up games = “our form is terrible”.

    At least you’re consistent, TRC…



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    #775
    Clegg
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    Ireland's forwards really did a job on Scotland at the ruck. They slowed down so much ball that Scotland eventually had to start committing three or four forwards just to get it out.

    They were giving Russell absolutely nothing to work with. Slow ball and a depleted attacking line for most of the first half. They were never winning.



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    #776
    [Deleted User]
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    Injury updates later today is it?



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    #777
    Larbre34
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121208767#Comment_121208767

    Thats a dumb statistic in isolation, it tells nothing. Ireland were forced into out-of-sequence replacements and a centre and a scrummie on the wings.

    In the circumstances, we did really well and the game was already out of sight.



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    #778
    stephen_n
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121208831#Comment_121208831

    A stopped watch. If we win the World Cup they will say we are peaking too early for 2027.



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    #779
    fitz
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121208851#Comment_121208851

    Or "can we back it up by defending the title when it matters in 2027".



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    #780
    downtheroad
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121208625#Comment_121208625

    I've no idea why so many were nervous going into that game. Ireland had the beating of them all day long. Scotland proved for any doubters , that they are a poor team.

    Next week is a different story.



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    #781
    FrancieBrady
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121208849#Comment_121208849

    Will be 48 hrs according to Murray Kinsella



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