General Premier League Thread 2023-24 Mod Note in op 27/6/23 And 21/05/24

I don’t blame Southgate for picking Maguire, it’s not Maguire’s fault or Southgate’s fault that Ten Hag is acting the way he is. Should Southgate ignore one of his better defenders because Ten Hag is treating him unfairly? Ten Hag might have to eat humble pie.

A friend of my mine (a Liverpool fan) sent me a link to the following post on a Liverpool fan page:

‘1. In 2022, Everton got a PGMOL apology after Rodri handball was not given as penalty. Everton lost 1-0, and Liverpool lost the title by 1 point because this handball decision was not given.

2. Last season, Arsenal got 2 PGMOL apologies which cost them 5 points. City won the League by 5 points

3. Man City have never received a PGMOL apology. Somehow the horrible quality of refereeing in this league never affects them, but affects their direct title rivals a lot.

So in last 2 years, 3 apology worthy mistakes have given 2 titles to Man City, the same team that has not been punished for FFP in 15 longgg years. You hear a lot of praise for City and Guardiola from pundits and ex-players. But if Klopp points out issues about FFP and VAR, he is said to be moaning/crying/whinging and should move on. Quite an absurd logic...I think Klopp has been absolutely bang on, all along 🤔’

when it’s put in those terms it puts an interesting take. I’m not entirely in agreement with it but it’s galling nonetheless. What are your thoughts?

From The Guardian this morning…..

“The UK government has been asked to reveal what steps it has taken to investigate whether Manchester City’s owner, Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan, assisted wealthy Russians on whom it has imposed sanctions in moving their assets to the United Arab Emirates.

Lawyers acting on behalf of a Ukrainian activist – who wishes to remain anonymous for fear of reprisals from Russia – have written to the foreign secretary, James Cleverly, to ask whether investigations have been carried out to determine whether Mansour, the UAE’s deputy prime minister, should be identified as a “designated person” subject to financial sanctions under the Russia (Sanctions) (EU Exit) Regulations 2019”

What a club.

Easist thing would be have the ref go straight to the monitor and discuss with var and on fiield ref makes the call just like rugby.

Window dressing.

Transmit an audio feed of the deliberations live straight away, not once a month with Howard Webb and Sky cleaning it up, being questioned by remounted hard hitting journalist Michael Owen 🙄

The silence from the other 19 clubs and their supporters was deafening all week, seems once liverpool were baong shat on they were all happy to swallow whatever crap the PGMOL was offering.

Once the clubs, ie the ultimate bosses of this league are happy to stay quiet, why would PGMOL change?

The silence of Liverpool through every PGMOL apology not effecting them is different to this instance in what way?

They couldn’t have done anything about it. Thems the rules. Again Liverpool always quiet unless it affects them. Which isn’t bad or wrong. Everyone’s the same. But don’t deride teams or supporters for being silent.

I don’t understand. Apologies.

So which is it, the poster I was replying to said they were silent. You saying they weren’t. And actually there hasn’t been any fundamental changes in VAR. plenty of promised reviews etc. consult assistant var (wouldn’t have made a difference in Liverpool match). So realistically a lot of huffing and puffing for nothing.

and again spurs fans were saying var was shocking. But Liverpool giving out about the cards was met with opposition

He might have been referring to the silence of clubs? I referred to you comment about the silence of fans. Also, PMGOl have stated that there will be fundamentally changes starting this week so Liverpool pushing the issue clearly worked. Despite Gary Neville and Co. Being completely against it.

Now whether these new changes will work is to be seen, but it can't make the current shambles that is VAR any worse.