Random EV thoughts.....

Exact same experience. Had a pre-facelift Model S for two years with lots of issues, always got a free loaner car of much higher value than my own car, with free tolls and free unlimited fuel (what other car maker does that?), can't fault service but their parts supply chain is bad. I now have a facelift Model S for almost 2 years and the car has no issues, build quality hugely better And both of these were made in the USA, which will guarantee you the opposite of good build quality from any brand 😂 The Tesla cars made in Berlin and China are miles ahead in terms of build quality

It's still open for breakdowns

As I frequent the Superchargers a lot during the week, I periodically run into them while charging. The guys are always super helpful, happy to chat and top up the windscreen washers. Even had a couple of issues diagnosed and appointments made as a result.

But I seriously love the Model S's that are modded to carry their kit. Its amazing how few tools they actually require.

How could anyone go back to a van after having that.

Jay Leno Hauls Tesla Semi with Tesla Semi

Which of those multiple locations can work on Tesla's aluminum body?

Insurers don’t ‘punish’ any specific car - it’s an industry that relies far too much on actuarial data and precedence, in order to adequately insure against similar claims in future.

the reason tesla insurance appears to be getting higher is purely down to the increasing amount of claim data available as they sell more of them - just like any other car.

things like VW’s, GM, Ford, Toyota etc share huge amounts of repairable parts across a wide range of vehicles; there’s decades of insurance data.

it’s not just the Y - another current example is trying to insure a Range Rover in London city due to the level of theft. A lot of insurers have simply stopped.

Absolutely correct - but that all adds to the risk profile. Remember that ‘risk’ in an insurance context doesn’t mean the chances of you having a claim, it’s the ‘risk’ of them having to pay, and how much they have to pay :)

It is hard to be sure if premium for Tesla cars are increasing but even in your example newer, simpler, weaker and cheaper to fix vehicle seems to be more expensive. I see that EVO 5 was costly, but in my experience EV insurance was always keenly priced than ICE. This seems to be true for last 12 months - with only exception being Tesla. I do not see a reason for Tesla to be fundamentally more dangerous, hence I think that limited availability of garages that can do a panel replacement after small incident could be driving premiums up and/or reluctance to insure Tesla.

Porsche Taycan 4S Cross Turismo takes on the Aussie Desert over 5000km......now that's range anxiety.

Was listening to this journalist on podcast about this trip. The challenge was to do it on a showroom car - including factory wheels. They did have a couple of support vehicles (for all of the video production) which carried a few spare tyres, but they never got a flat.

A lot of planning went into scheduling charging stops, particularly it the outback where charging could be several hundred kms apart.

Porsche also published a series of articles on the trip.

My insurance went down 20% (in or around 100 beans) by moving to a Tesla.

No penalty whatsoever, in fact the opposite.

Which EV did you have earlier?

Increased cost of repairs could be also possible explanation.

There are many garages that do panel repairs, it is replacement that is problem. Good to hear that Carcraft handles that, I must have missed this info on the group. However I think one thing is us repairing cars and another is insurance route.

I think it is repairable, I think there could be some untypical solutions by Tesla that for now scare away various garages from getting authorization from Tesla or even handling independent work. I wonder if there are any body parts that Tesla would not sell to independent garages.

Was it not the case that Tesla parts came from the Netherlands and were delivered by the slowest means possible, if I was an insurer paying for a car rental or limited secured parking at a repairer I would not be happy.

Add in the fact of brexit and paperwork on each part, who on earth would want the hassle of it.

Its different for legacy supply chains, experience and volume.