General Premier League Thread 2023-24 Mod Note in op 27/6/23 And 21/05/24

its grand cos there was an apology.

once, fine. this **** has been happening since var came in.

no one cares about token apologies. if you cant get it correct, change the system.

Given that Mike Dean's recent interview proved that VAR is not always making decisions based purely on the merits of the incident, but rather also take into account the feelings of the ref in the game since they're mates, shows that whoever works on VAR should be completely separate from the pool of refs. Oversight can't be so emotionally involved with the subjects they're overseeing.

That's insane... like, grand if that's a little misunderstanding, but once the ref is giving a kick out for the offside, how is the VAR guy not right back in his ear saying "oh sorry, misunderstanding, that was a definite clear goal." How the fck do they just continue on after knowingly making that mistake?!

That's hilarious. Were the VAR officials not watching the match? Did they not see the flag go up and Diaz stop celebrating? He must have been playing angry birds or something.

And did the officials not see a free kick given to spurs for offside instead of a kick off?

I don't believe this.

The var team is in communication with the ref, if it was true it would have been easy for the var to say to ref after he awarded the offside, "no it was a good goal".

He didn't.

Tbf people shouldn't be betting on anything and if this has that outcome it should be viewed as a positive.

VAR has been a disaster from it's inception though this thing has been coming a long time.

Hopefully this leads to an overhaul of VAR.

Tonight's game was one where you could make a very reasonable base principles-type argument that the VAR team were in on a fix. My guess is the powers that be will see that also!!

Sure there is no other reasonable argument, not sure why you restrict it to var, what were the umpire/referees on, serious fix on , seriously would be better watching mock wrestling than that shite , they are not even trying to cover up the fix anymore.

People calling for VAR is ridiculous. All it is, is a second opinion given from someone that can use the benefit of technology to get a better look. It's still the same useless refs that are in the field, except there's now a useless one off if it. Still the same human errors. Still the same ineptitude. Refereeing standards in England have been atrocious for several years now. Having the same useless prick in an office instead of on a field doesn't change that.

Howard Webb spoke about this earlier in the season. They want to have live var audio but it’s against FIFA rules apparently

Gambling and gambling advertising are off the charts these days, particularly in the UK.

I've nothing against gambling (or drinking or dancing, you funny funny man) but it's recognised that gambling has become incredibly problematic over recent years (it has a tangible effect, try getting mortgage approval with an active online gambling account for example).

So yeah, I couldn't give a fvck if VAR impacts the profit margins of Paddy Power or whatever bunch of vultures you care to mention.

Premier League VAR is a joke however, but ultimately it becomes a comfortable excuse for managers when their sides perform poorly and a dodgy VAR call is in the mix, it doesn't even have to be a dodgy call because nobody trusts VAR (See any post match interview with Erik Ten Hag this season after a defeat).

The hope would be that after the fact that it was admitted that a mistake was made in this fashion the whole thing would be rebuilt from the ground up, but I can't see that really happening until next season so this kind of thing will likely continue for some time.

As always about half of them will be red the other half nothing.

You could just toss a coin to get more reliable results.