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General Premier League Thread 2023-24 Mod Note in op 27/6/23 And 21/05/24

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Christ thats hideous.

    The half white base/half black base doesn't help either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,419 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    That's what the difference is between either side. I thought the stripes were much closer together on the right hand side.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,614 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    The November games were announced on September 14th.

    The October games were announced on September 17th.

    I'd guess December games will be announced around October 10th-17th. Sometimes game changes can be pre-empted by European games / cup games / internationals breaks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,484 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    Just talking to the Mrs there about City and the financial doping that’s being investigated and we can’t figure out IF City were to be found guilty and they were stripped of their titles, how will the league table of those years be calculated? Is it second place becomes champions after the fact? Or would the tables be recalculated without City’s involvement?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,953 ✭✭✭IncognitoMan


    In Italy with Juve the titles went to the next best - Inter got a good few.

    It's a bit of **** solution at the same time. You don't get to celebrate those title obviously. Your total just goes up overnight..

    However, if it stops sky showing the Aguero moment it'll all have been worth it. City have basically built their identity around that moment over the last 10 years and to have it stripped off them due to financial cheating would be fairly hilarious.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios


    I think United would be awarded 2 additional titles if City were stripped but tbh, I wouldn't want them. A nice fat asterik beside each and every one of their title wins is far more desirable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,590 ✭✭✭McFly85


    It would depend on how the punishment is handled.

    Do they apply a points deduction based on the amount of charges per season they’re found guilty of? If that’s the case then it might open up lawsuits from other clubs citing loss of earnings(e.g Everton finished 14 points behind City in 13/14, could they sue for missing out on the CL?)

    Do they just exclude City altogether from the table? Probably have the same issue as above.

    So the likeliest scenario is that there is just no winner declared for those seasons. I’d be happy enough with that tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,614 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    in France, there was just no champion when Marseille were stripped of their title IIRC. Just no champion in the given years.

    IMO awarding the 2nd place can sometimes be a bit iffy as in some of those seasons, the runner up was 20 points behind. Can you reward that?



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,377 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    They won't be stripped of titles.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,847 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Juventus were stripped of two titles. 2004/05 and 2005/06. No team was awarded the 2004/05 title. Inter were awarded the 2005/06 title.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,409 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    Depending on the extent of the cheating, administrative relegation to League Two and a five-year (to pluck a number from thin air) ban from European competitions upon qualification would be an idea. I know the case isn't entirely the same but Rangers have been seriously set back by similar punishment in 2012.

    Stripping them of the titles or awarding them to others doesn't mean anything; they won them on the pitch and celebrated them at the time. Putting an asterisk beside them should be a given, though.

    What should be learned from all this is proper development of financial controls and thorough examination of accounts to avoid this happening again, though the goings-on on Tyneside show nothing's changed so far. It damages the integrity of competitions when fooling around like this isn't properly punished.

    FWIW, in the case of any severe punishment being meted out to City, it wouldn't surprise me if they withdrew from FA competitions and join the Saudi league or a Saudi-backed Super League, along with the likes of PSG and Barca, especially if UEFA are forced to act similarly.

    That said, I imagine a more likely punishment would be points deductions and fines and a 'don't do that again' admonishment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,582 ✭✭✭jacool


    They are winning every game they play in that, because the opposition will be dazzled into submission.

    It's the opposite of "that" Man Utd kit, which apparently "went well with jeans", that saw them famously lose down at Southampton.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,582 ✭✭✭jacool


    From Everton "The shirts are on sale now, they will not be worn by players on the pitch " They are relegation fodder so!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,460 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Jaysus, reminds me of the old BBC test card. Awful yoke.

    What's the thinking behind that? For every one that the club shop has to bin due to lack of sales we give a fiver to an equality charity?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,820 ✭✭✭✭Osmosis Jones


    It really is just a hideous design, a concept that's been done quite well plenty of times before too:

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    We've even done it ourselves

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,582 ✭✭✭jacool




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,226 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Some start by Villa,3 up already



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,580 ✭✭✭Azatadine


    Jeepers. Emery doing a job on Brighton. 3-0 up already with less than 30 mins played.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,226 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Brutal defending by Villa and Brighton get one back



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Zaniolo not blocking the keeper anyway

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    Apparently only wearing a United jersey affects the keepers eyeline.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,080 ✭✭✭✭OmegaGene


    Why does every poor decision have to be a dig at United 🤷‍♂️

    The internet isn’t for everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios


    That must be a near record PL win for Villa. Emery is a fair operator.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭tinpib


    It's taken a while for the penny to drop but all Steven Gerrard's groundwork and coaching paying off big time for Villa, I'm sure Emery will give him all the credit in his post match press duties.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Moreso the dire lack of consistency I was getting at. Probably shouldn't mentioned United thats my bad I guess. I shoulda asked if its widely known Danes are more solid than Swiss or Italians thus cannot be seen through?

    Thats the biggest problem that identical incidents have wildly different outcomes. Rightly or Wrongly if VAR picked a decision and stuck with it the entire time it wouldn't be as much of a clusterfùck. The fact its an absolute lottery every single time makes the whole thing such a farce every week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭DAngelo Bailey


    Citeh in trouble here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,657 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    One game sample size, but turns out Rodri is pretty bloody important.

    The most important.



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    Not sure Ten Hag is all that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,657 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    Yeah, I'm not sure he is.

    But that club is rotten.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,187 ✭✭✭pavb2


    Ha ha, I would agree with you but the improvement with Emery was literally straight away and he only brought in two players before the summer, Duran who usually comes on as a sub and Moreno a full back.

    I’m not sure why Gerrard struggled with the team though he did make some man management gaffes, in reality I think it just underlines Emery’s experience as a manager

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,192 ✭✭✭✭klose


    As interesting a game week you'll see, now for the main event!



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