Is the UK now giving off strong Third World vibes?

The whole freedom of movement debate was utterly toxic during the referendum campaign. It was spun that EU workers were a huge drain on the British economy and holding it back and therefore the only solution was to leave the EU. They were supposedly driving down wages and leaving the working class much worse off - scarcely a word mentioned about all the positive things they were bringing to the table.

The purpose of Brexit was to avoid the changes to offshore tax avoidance the EU were to address. It's not going to be a vote winner to point out to the hard of thinking that Brexit was going to benefit the extremely rich.

The Tories always sow division, it's an old English trick that is used to their advantage in Iraq, Northern Ireland, Kuwait, India, in fact anywhere they pulled out of they left the division they used as an excuse to "help" the chosen side.

So if you are going to sell something to make people worse off, then lies and racism targeted at the hard of thinking is a tried and tested technique.

A quick view of the garbage in the Mail, Britain's most popular tabloid rag provides an indication of the political acumen of the readership.

The East Europeans created jobs in the service sector. What drives down wages in the UK are zero hours contracts and jobs artificially subsidised because so many people claiming benefits in the UK are working.

This is the crux of it all. We'll have our own challenges in Ireland with an increasing ratio of dependents to workers in the future, but I'm optimistic that we won't be lured like Brexit voters into the belief that domestic imbalances could be fixed by leaving the biggest trade bloc in the world.

I remember reading at the time of the Brexit vote there were as many voters over the age of 55 as there were under, and the returns suggested that the leave vote was overwhelming with the older voter. What they didn't appreciate at the time was that so many services that an aging society needs were dependent on EU staff, and with a weakened currency and family related visa hassles the only EU healthcare workers they're attracting now are those needing a few years specialty experience before moving on to better conditions elsewhere.

Must be why so many from the third world want to go there, even risking their lives.

I'm talking about the drop in the pound after Brexit and in particular its losses against the EU.

The day after the referendum everything brought into the UK cost more.

UK employees are not like Stonehenge, a fixed item only having an impact on the local environment.

I obviously cannot explain the situation to you, but let me put it this way I worked directly for UK and Irish companies throughout my career.

I have property and money in both countries.

I worked all over the world, with all nationalities, I know how market economics works too.

Maybe you got your ideas from the British gutter press, to be honest it sounds very much like it.

They lie, Brexit was sold on lies.

Eastern Europeans were a major asset to Britain, they are being replaced by none EU workers, but that does not get much mention in the Tory rags.

If you want to know how Britain is doing and how it works buy the Independent or Guardian and don't bother with the BBC.

It's funny since I arrived here with my new Irish passport after Brexit, people are constantly telling me how Brexit is still making Britain the land of opportunity and how the EU that I am still part of is depreciating or becoming a military force or breaking up or some such rubbish.

I act in accordance with my personal economics and experience, I do know a little of what I'm talking about.

How do you explain to a bunch of IQ zero's that the country has gone from 164,000 visas for foreign workers in 2016 to half a million this year and the Christmas rush for work has not even added to that figure yet.

You see the simple thing is when you have conned your muppets with lies in order to get them to vote for a self harming package, then you don't publicise the news that would shake their faith in racism, do you?

The countries who colonized Africa are getting their karma now however i dont understand how we ar ealso getting some of that karma after all we were colonized also. Our country particularly North Dublin and many small vilages are a little 3rd worldish when you need to give 2 weeks notice to see a GP. I grew up ringing the doc in the morning and seeing him / her that same day.

Not enough teachers nurses policemen doctors or hospital beds certainly not enough mental hospitals. I was in the lovely capital and there was man of colour walking around naked in Dublin **** hell we need huge new prisons for the increase in crime and huge mental facilities since the whole world is worried about their mental health.

The world is becoming much more homogenized and individual cultures are being slowly diluted eventually to be wiped out good old Soros wants no borders anywhere and its looking like his wet dream is becoming a reality . So dont bother looking to the 3 rd worldish UK its out side your door too.

Typically, we Irish regard ourselves as wealthier than other countries based on our GDP. What many forget, however, is that our GDP is heavily distorted by the presence of multi-national corporations running profits through the country to avail of low tax.

A better measure of financial well being would be disposable household income per capita. This is gives an idea of the sort of money we have at our disposal. Using this measure Brexit Britain is actually higher than Ireland.

Ireland: 33,000

UK: 36,800.

no do you have one to spare id love to read the one you are reading ! I am merely commenting on what i can see it doesnt bother me much as it doesnt affect me i live away from it all surrounded by my own land and i dont sell any sites so no one can live near me . Not everyone has that luxury and can avoid the neighbours that are forced on them.

There's no way the poor are worse off in Ireland than they are in the UK. Standard social welfare rate in Ireland is €220 per week (£190), old age pension is €250 per week (around £215).

No it's because many that want to go speak English and have connections there.

If you look at Britain's history you will find that they were quite generous with their British nationality, providing all and sundry with the "honour" of citizenship.

That didn't of course become relevant until transport became cheap enough for Britain's commonwealth citizens to start "coming home" to see this paradise all their wealth was being shipped to.

The friends and relatives are still there, even though the passports were rapidly stopped.

Of course when you blow populations to smithereens, then I suppose there is a natural affinity for the bombers that spared you. I worked with an Iraqi in Birmingham, a brilliant person It was hard to understand how someone like him could be so nasty and selfish as to have oil under his feet. Asking to be blown to bits he was!

I never asked him why he was in England working as a colleague, I regret not finding out.

Significantly better off in Ireland