Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

Can you please correct this? No minimum fee to the language school is mentioned. Just that a fee under 6000 needs to be paid in full. We know how committed you are to correcting misinformation on this thread!

Lol, all pile on there !

As for @batman_oh , this is not a refugee thread, it is about immigration.

If you want to talk about Africans on boats there is another thread .

The people coming in to this country are more educated percentage wise than those leaving which indicates our young people are leaving for experience and travel abroad , because they can get educated and they can get jobs here , and those coming here are coming to work as well as live , so it is a net brain GAIN .

You can rant all you like about Sweden and other countries but it is irrelevant on this thread . The immigrants in general are not the same as what you are describing and you know it .

The majority of IMMIGRANTS are very well educated and qualified with a minimum amount uneducated . A lot of those in between are the language students and some refugees , but not all .

We were at functional full employment , beyond that at this stage .

If we close our doors we will have businesses shutting down from lack of staff , and not just Deliveroo . Tech , hospitality , services , health care will suffer .

An economy in decline is one which is not growing., employing people , majority of people paying taxes .

The problem people have here is the diversity of the growing population , let's call a spade a spade ....and the refugees . So that's another discussion elsewhere .

And the issues of housing health and other services are playing catch up after years of neglect .

Nothing to see several posters said it's all grand,

But yet .......

Given the amount of vacancies we have in low skill industries, we need all the immigrants we can possibly get. Hospitality, Construction, Transport (see: Dublin Bus driver crisis) cannot get the staff, all roles where there is minimal training before hand, where you can get trained up on the job.

We are at functionally beyond full employment currently, and it's doing a decent bit of damage to our economy, particularly in the trades.

No . Not as asylum seekers . As I said before this thread is about IMMIGRATION, not refugees solely.

And when talking about what is the subject of the thread, it is spectacularly farcical that so many of you choose to ignore that there are very highly qualified people coming from Non EU countries to work in our Healthcare system and Tech industry. Finance and Engineering also.

But people here choose to focus on the soft target of the asylum seeker . What does that say about what your agenda is on this thread ?

I had this one saved as a draft so I'm just clearing the decks

More of the ol surmising eh? -

This sums it up perfectly. You're all about the 'surmising', the 'feels', the 'I believes', the 'probable's' - and post these on numerous occasions throughout both threads...but they're posted and portrayed as facts with fa to back them up. If we want to take you to task on these, we have to do the work/research to prove you wrong - How the hell does that work exactly? As I said before, you are posting in bad faith and it's very annoying - When asked for links to the rubbish you post, you just ignore the requests and come back later with (what I can only class as) more brain farts

We know you're not really a fan of stats, facts and graphs etc, but see if you can get to grips with this -

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I seem to remember several individuals promoting Sweden and Swedens immigration policy and how it was such a happy place according to antidotes on here .

Sweden is currently trending

"Africans On Boats" are economic migrants for the most part. To get to Spain, Italy, France, the UK and Ireland they have to go through a good few countries not in a state of war. They are not refugees - they may get/claim that status here from our soft touch government and policies but they are generally not Refugees like our Ukrainian or Syrian friends.

Also you can be both a refugee and immigrant the terms are not mutually exclusive. Inward migration statistics that include all people into the country are what we should really be focusing on.

Have you ever worked in construction?

I have and its not low skilled no matter where a person is working on a building site.

Doubt Lucas from Brazil would be much good with a shovel though.

They didn't tell him in an election though.

I suppose he's warning the Irish people. They have "moral and legal obligations".

That's what I have been told. How much moral and legal obligation though? Can a number be put on it?

I probably shouldn't ask. I think they are trying to put together a burden sharing mechanism at the European Union level.

You are trying(And failing) to move the goal posts of the thread by trivialising the problem part of immigration and focusing on the part that is not really a problem at all. As I mentioned in my reply to you, immigration into Ireland is not just legal migration, do you disagree with that statement? I also pointed out that not all refugees are actually refugees therefore would still fit your categorisation of immigrant.

Also If you wouldn't mind could you keep the personal attacks to yourself?

Nice try. Nobody cares about the same group of lads liking each others posts.

The country will never adopt far right politics. Sorry that touches a nerve ;)

The constant need of posters to paint Sweden as some hellhole is disgusting. Sweden is a great place to live

Surveys taken every year showing what Swedes think of their society, what they worry about etc, refugees way down the list, 32% , even antibiotics working less comes higher on their worry list.

6th happiest country in the world.

best country in the world for quality of living.

There are no posters staying crime doesn't happen. If course it does. We have plenty of crime here also, but I doubt the rest of the world are saying Ireland is a sh1tehole because we have organised crime gangs, murderous fueds, and travelling criminal gangs.

Surprise ...

But yet your wrong there has been no claims of Sweden being a hell hole is disgusting,

Your making it up as you go along and not for the the first time, Ive lived in Sweden and Denmark ,and parts of Sweden are **** holes,in some places it's well documented no-go area for the authorities,

Come on your clearly out of your depth here