The emergence of "Zombie" by The Cranberries as an Irish sporting anthem

I think it's time for me to exit this thread now that the argument has degenerated to who killed less innocent civilians. Who defines innocent anyway? Don't think Garda Gerry McCabe was innocent in the eyes of the PIRA, or those killed by Loyalists in the Dublin and Monaghan bombings.....

Jesus lads , just enjoy the game,I am as republican in feelings as many but would sing the song happily,my interpretation of it is it's a peace song, everyone can take their own interpretation,I am well aware of the inspiration,she was a great songwriter and hit the mark ,it was past time to take the gun(etc) out of Irish politics,it doesn't necessarily mean she was anti republican etc, just pro peace.

Any politicians tweets etc are just looking for attention,if that's the issue they are focusing on they shouldn't get votes/money from it ,we don't need people(politicians)looking to profit from division, profiting from the troubles has delayed peace long enough.

Enjoy the rugby, be proud of the accomplishments rather than this shite.

It's funny how serious people can get about the meaning of songs when in reality it's being sung by thousands of half jarred supporters just trying to have a good time, I'd say 90+% of them couldn't care less what the song means. It's a good song written by a great Irish artist, that's good enough for most supporters.

of course he has a clue what he is talking about, he is a well informed poster on the issue of the armed struggle in the name.

This is the basic reality of it.

People belting out a song that they all know.

Reading in to them singing it as a rebuke to the Irish army or not including references to what the British army did is just over analyzing.

Most of them only know the chorus and belt that out, people are just enjoying the night and that's the height of it.

Exactly. I wouldn't be surprised if many of the younger (and plenty of the not so young) supporters actually think it's a song about actual zombies, ie the Hollywood flesh eating variety.

I think people on internet forums overthink things in a way that perhaps those who book flights to go watch rugby for a week for two in France and get twisted drunk, really don't overthink at all. It's a good crowd anthem in the same way lots of not very fitting songs have become popular in football stadiums across England, such as You'll never walk alone. Some tunes just lend themselves to these settings. It's a modern classic of Irish rock/pop music. Delores died young, tragically. It just ticks boxes.

the song being sung never bothered me in the slightest.

it was snooker who got bothered over it thinking that there was some wide scale attack on it and the cramberies, when in reality it was just a couple of people on twitter, probably 1 or 2 individuals with a couple of accounts each.

I'd say there's plenty of songs being sung everyday that people are willfully unaware of their true meanings. Just singing along to them because they're catchy and enjoyable.

You are like an angry American trot screaming about the US army, NATO and imperialism. Some people are just instinctively against their own countries forces, its fashionable in some quarters.

the fcking IRA are not my countrys forces .its insulting for you to suggest it, they are a organised crime gang

The howls of outrage and offence from Shinners over the singing of this song is delicious, they're making fools of themselves all over the internet.

This will dial back next week once head office in Belfast realises what damage is being done to the gilded lily look.

Good to see it as the mask has fallen and they are exposed what what they are, timely when an election looming where they expect a majority: giving them defence, justice and finance

In your head, in your head

a couple of them were criminals, but over all they were the freedom fighting and community protection force of northern ireland so were a force of ireland.

there is no outrage from shinners apart from 1 or 2, it is you who is making an issue of this.

I was in Paris last night any the crowd would have belted out any song at full time .. Queens Don't stop me now was sung in a massive chorus as the Irish player did a walk around the pitch after the game

As for Zombie ... a great tune and as for someone who was just starting college around the time of the Warrington bombs we didn't want to be associated with violence like this being done in 'our name'

I don't need to look up anything. I lived through those times and, like most people who did, abhor the violence that was inflicted on the people of this country. I know victims of The Troubles on all sides.

I also don't need people rewriting history. I don't need your whataboutery to know what happened. The vast majority of people on this island during The Troubles wanted no part in what was happening.

A cleaner war? You are delusional.

The fact that a song condemning the murder of two innocent children offends you says everything. Do you condemn their murder?