Designate Umpires Permanent Positions.

Xenophile · 05-09-2023 08:06PM #1

For example goal umpire to the right of Goalkeeper.

Lost Ormond · 12-09-2023 07:24PM

what question are you asking exactly?

Xenophile · 12-09-2023 08:58PM

Designate Umpires Permanent Positions.

05-09-2023 9:06pm

Uncle Pierre · 20-09-2023 03:02PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121102554#Comment_121102554

I've seen this "idea" raised before. What it means to have a rule so that the "goal umpire" (i.e. the one who waves is the green flag) is always at the right-hand side of the goalkeeper, and the umpire with the white flag is always at the left-hand side.

For the life of me, I honestly can't see what difference it would make. There are far more pressing things to fix or introduce in the Rule Book than this one!

Xenophile · 23-09-2023 03:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121134550#Comment_121134550

Fix the small things.....................................................It would good for older people watching tele.

By the way what are the more pressing things that fixing. ⛏️

Uncle Pierre · 24-09-2023 11:24AM

All right then, if you genuinely can't think of bigger or more pressing issues than which umpire operates which flag, I'm going to assume this is a very major issue for you indeed.

It's open to yourself to start the process to make it happen. Just bring a motion to your club for them to send it up the line, and if it gains enough support at each stage, it'll become a rule all right.

Am still not sure that many people see it as the issue that you do, though.....!

Lost Ormond · 24-09-2023 05:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121147247#Comment_121147247

Loads more pressing things. Number of officials isnt near enough, rule book isnt helpful and needs an overhaul. referee abuse cases.

Xenophile · 10-10-2023 02:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121150183#Comment_121150183

Thanks for your comment.

It would help older people and people with failing sight watching the games on TV.

Uncle Pierre · 11-10-2023 12:06PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121219019#Comment_121219019

If they're the people you're thinking of here, I'd suggest a far simpler and instantly available means of helping them would be to simply turn the volume up loud enough for them to be able to hear the commentator say "and there's a goal", or "and there's a point", or "but the shot goes wide". :)

Yeah Right · 11-10-2023 12:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121219019#Comment_121219019

Seriously? Help them with what, knowing whether or not a goal was scored? Anyone who can't make out which colour flag is being raised is gonna have serious issues making out which side of the goal that person is standing. Honestly, you’re trying to fix a problem which doesn’t exist and you’ve just conjured out of thin air. Has anyone ever said “I can’t see whether that was a goal or a point, they should only have the goal flags on the left/right and the point flag on the opposite side”.

Xenophile · 04-12-2025 10:47AM

Make things easier for older people and people with failing sight following the games on TV . Place the green flag to the right of the goalkeeper, what could be simpler ?

afatbollix · 04-12-2025 10:53AM

Why are they there in the first place.

Waste of time if you ask me.

Uncle Pierre · 04-12-2025 02:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124041354#Comment_124041354

Two years later, and back to this 😁

What could be simpler would be the person putting out the flags being able to put either flag at either side, instead of having to stop and think "hmmm, does this one go here, or over there?"

FullBack Jam · 05-12-2025 02:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121134550#Comment_121134550

Wouldn't make sense anyway to have one umpire on goals and one on points. The reason there are 2 umpires is so that if the angle of the ball coming towards the post doesn't suit the sight-line of one umpire, then it should suit the other one. In only one umpire was designated on flagging for points only, he would need to fairly quick on his feet to take a stance behind the goal that suits the direction in which the ball is coming over t he bar. And as we know, there are not too many 100 metre sprinters on umpire duty.

Also, what use would the "goal umpire" be. If in a game, there are say 2 goals down his end of the pitch, then his only job for the full game is to lift up a flag twice. I would add to this to say that umpires can contribute a lot more to the game than they do, e.g. be more proactive in informing ref of off the ball incidents, and that we shouldn't be reducing their input.

Uncle Pierre · 05-12-2025 03:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124044795#Comment_124044795

Ah, but just because you're in charge of waving the green flag doesn't mean you couldn't advise the fella at the far side of the goal with the white flag on whether or not he should wave it after a shot.

It's still an unnecessary proposal overall, though.

I'm wondering what would happen at the sort of club match where there's only one umpire on duty at each goal? Would he have to keep the green flag at one side and the white flag at the other side, and then run between them depending on what was actually scored????

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