Dispatches channel 4 expose **Read Opening Post before posting**

I'm just confused as to how Russel Brand is being accused of rape and the take away is that he's being controlled by Russia.

and all the other guys who are remaining silent on this.

There's emails and texts going back to the time of the event where he responded and rape is directly referenced. One victim went to a rape crisis center and there's therapist files that go back to the time of the event where the rape is referenced. It's a lot more than you'll normally get with historical rape cases. On top of that, I'd suspect we're gonna see more victims come forward after the doc.

He's free to take legal action but it's pretty clear that channel 4 are confident it's watertight.

It's also somewhat disturbing the handful of people who are intent on downplaying this. The stories were pretty disturbing in general.

I didn't reference you at all... I already stated that I suspect he became political as a cover if any of these things came to light, he could claim cancellation and smearing.

TBH , I’d prefer to see a complainant going to the police and a resultant police investigation followed by a criminal prosecution if it found a case to answer.

These sort of programmes never sit easy with me when there’s a legal system ready and willing to prosecute such behaviour- of course the complainant needs to be willing also.

But is a TV programme about such behaviour justice? It can be if done in conjunction with the legal system - not every alleged predator will form the subject of a 1.5 hour tv documentary.

We have known for years that this chap was an odious individual and would likely have accusations of sexual misconduct of some description levelled against him at some stage given his bragging through the years.

Since the likes of Saville died with his knighthood intact and a reverent public funeral, news media have evidently vowed that never again would a public figure remain protected if accusations of sexual abuse etc were levelled against them. But that’s a media vendetta - I don’t subscribe to justice via the media. The alleged victims need help and support in the first instance and maybe over time will have the courage to make a formal complaint- but trial by media may prove to be doing more harm than good to them.

It's less a conspiracy theory and more speculation over a guy who prided himself on being politically disinterested. It's not a get out of jail free card but he's got prominent people leaping to his defense and that's largely because of how he's positioned himself.

Anyway, I'll leave you off to get outraged....

I think you’re 100 percent on the money with this.

Two things

Firstly, the tin foil hat market is very lucrative. If RB was not getting traditional work if his past was catching him up, this is a licence to print money.

Secondly, he may have realised he would be snookered by way of the normal legal channels, this is a perfect way to build an alternative defence.

I'm not shutting down criticism.

If this looney is guilty he deserves punishment.

How he's being controlled by Russia and how that is being widely accepted is puzzling to me though.

Is used the word baroque in a stated reference to Russel Brand's own words, it is wasn't hidden in any way shape or form.

You can be sure the stories of rape are true. No way would dispatchers or c4 run this otherwise.

As ive said it'll be the american system Russ needs to worry about. If they pursue him he will spend 20-30 years in the slammer.

Good riddance. A horrible person. No loss.

The actual topic is easy.

If he's guilty he should be punished. End of.

I do find it slightly disturbing the amount of prominent edgelords that have leaped to his defence. Cause Musk in particular has public influence. Thinking back, it's basically like a more extreme version of Spiked leaping to defend Savile. Basically the cancel culture claims just has a much louder defence.