RTÉ admits paying Tubridy €345,000 more than declared

chrisd2019 · 11-09-2023 10:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121099130#Comment_121099130

Taking opinions from a former minister who departed the state for his own bailout doesn't seem to be a wise move for the old RTE. Amazing how folks seem to have short memories about politicians turned media experts!

skimpydoo · 11-09-2023 10:40PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121099345#Comment_121099345

At home in bed, the latest he will be on is the 9 O'Clock news.

Emblematic · 11-09-2023 10:41PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121099355#Comment_121099355

It is mainly a commercial outfit but with a subsidy that allows for inefficiency and excess that would otherwise put them out of business.

That is why, rather than trying to make it a public service broadcaster, make it a fully commercial one that it more or less already is, and let it stand on its own two feet.

Fund public service content separately and make it available to all broadcasters.

skimpydoo · 11-09-2023 10:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121099386#Comment_121099386

Love him or loathe him, Yates is talking so much sense.

Loafing Oaf · 11-09-2023 11:27PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121099176#Comment_121099176

They won't. No Irish government would ever let that happen.

11-09-2023 11:34PM

A young DLB talking about his dream of emigrating to London to work in media. Looks like his perseverance and hard work has finally paid off 😂

https://www.thesun.ie/tvandshowbiz/television/5088262/rte-ryan-tubridy-cringe-today-hair/amp/

saabsaab · 12-09-2023 09:03AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121099498#Comment_121099498

I wouldnt be so sure the public mood is angry and it might get a positive reaction from them. The RTE model is outdated. None of the young people I know watch TV anymore and that isn't about to change.

ButtersSuki · 12-09-2023 09:12AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121099196#Comment_121099196

I'm not on facebook but you should see his instagram if you want to see a love in. The key to Instagram is you can delete any shall we say #unkind comments and present a picture of one's self garnering universal praise and adulation. Yoiu can see why RenaultMan would like it. I'd say the interns in NK Towers are busy with the delete buttons...........

ButtersSuki · 12-09-2023 09:14AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121099333#Comment_121099333

Has there ever been a Minister so invisible in a crisis?

ButtersSuki · 12-09-2023 09:14AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121099242#Comment_121099242

"We need to pat ourselves on the back a bit more"

Karppi · 12-09-2023 09:16AM

She's a close second to Eamonn Ryan's vacillations in Transport, IMO.

ButtersSuki · 12-09-2023 09:17AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121099153#Comment_121099153

It really is bottom of the barrel stuff with no real public service element except to satisfy the death and misery fetishists. What other country ion the world tries to make a "celebrity" out of a pathologist? Between this and her appearance on Dancing With The Staff RTE are really pushing Cassidy for reasons that remain unclear.

ButtersSuki · 12-09-2023 09:19AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121098066#Comment_121098066

I think it was dismantled for him after his petulant behaviour all summer. I wouldn't rule out NK keeping it in his back pocket for a reveal at some stage in the future.

odyssey06 · 12-09-2023 09:23AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121100073#Comment_121100073

Was also on VM The Restaurant.

TinyMuffin · 12-09-2023 09:30AM

Maybe dr Marie Cassidy is the one that should be called to look into Rte.

Karppi · 12-09-2023 09:34AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121100116#Comment_121100116

I think they're saving her until RTE actually passes. That won't be long now, but it wouldn't look good to undertake the PM whilst there's still some small signs of life.

martingriff · 12-09-2023 10:00AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121100073#Comment_121100073

I suppose its because I like those types of programs but I like it. Criminologist and the like are becoming well known due to the increase of crime docs

Hyperbollix · 12-09-2023 10:17AM

Yates on the money as usual last night. Particularly in his closing analysis that the only thing we will see happening here is a sticking plaster solution involving a large bung to RTE to keep the lights on. The only consideration for TDs being getting beyond the next election.

As for Peter Feeney suggesting that RTE is essentially a great PBS and this is only a bit of fiddling at the top regarding salaries of top presenters and management..........Is he having a laugh? RTE morphed from a PBS into an advertising agency and a vehicle for the promotion of a number of clients of one agent. This one agent then acquired de facto editorial control of the output of the broadcaster. Is it a coinkydink that NK Management people were blockading the RTE schedule from one end of the week to the other? Isn't it a bit odd that NK Mgmt people were constantly sitting opposite 'The Most Trusted Man in Ireland' while many other people with very valid stories to tell, were blacklisted from the show because...reasons.

RoTelly · 12-09-2023 11:14AM

Ivan Yeats is aware of what RTÉ was given, pointing out the move of the NSO over to the NCH last year, the €50m in extra funding that was given to them over 5 years and I assume continues even with the extra 25m that they are to get in the budget.

Remember RTÉ lost €2.8 but in the same year they saved €7m to 8m as they didn't not have to fund the NSO, can anyone tell me if there was an improvement in RTÉ in 2022, or am I missing something, where did the money go?

12-09-2023 11:31AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121100515#Comment_121100515

Pensions probably. When a fake subcontractor becomes an employee their pension needs to be funded. There is also the issue of Scope penalties and interest, but this is the state paying the state. I believe they have already paid 2m, and someone said they have another 8m set aside for Scope.

awec · 12-09-2023 11:43AM

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2023/09/12/rte-paid-650000-in-car-allowances-last-year-with-no-proof-of-licence-required/

Honestly, I don't know if The Irish Times are click baiting here / trying to stick the boot in, or the quality of this piece is just fairly low. Maybe they're trying to whip up hysteria, or maybe they are confusing car allowance with mileage or company car.

A 5 minute exercise in learning what a "car allowance" is would let them know that what RTE are doing is completely normal and not in any way unusual.

ButtersSuki · 12-09-2023 11:47AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121100619#Comment_121100619

Yeah, a car allowance would be a pretty standard part of a remuneration package. I've had one for the last 20+ years, having opted out of company car schemes to avail of same.

I haven't read the article, but knowing RTE I wouldn't be surprised if some were availing of it when they wouldn't/shouldn't be entitled to same. I guess that's where the issue could lie.

awec · 12-09-2023 11:49AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121100641#Comment_121100641

The article is basically saying that RTE pays car allowances without employees having to have a driving license. That's it. The implication is that there's some sort of story in the fact that you can get a car allowance without having a license to drive.

Only 17 employees get a car allowance.

As you say, totally normal, and I suspect someone at The Irish Times is confused.

ButtersSuki · 12-09-2023 11:52AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121100649#Comment_121100649

Well that does change things a bit as a car allowance is normally in lieu of you taking a company car. A company car is normally provided to people whose job requires them to be off site etc. at times for meetings etc.

I'd wager that one warrants a closer look at from revenue/tax compliance perspectives, but admittedly I'm not an expert in this area. On the face of it, it does appear a little odd.

awec · 12-09-2023 11:55AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121100657#Comment_121100657

Car allowance is nothing to do with taking a company car or not. It also has nothing to do with whether you are required to go off site or not.

It's essentially additional salary, except the money paid via car allowance is not eligible for pension contributions or bonus calculations. If you're made redundant it would not be factored into any redundancy pay calculation.

There's nothing odd here, tax wise it's just treated like the rest of your salary. From a Revenue point of view it makes no difference if your salary is 200k, or your salary is 180k with a 20k car allowance, you'll pay the exact same tax.

If you are paid 30k salary and 10k car allowance then you'll be put into the higher tax band, you can't use it to dodge tax.

Why it's called "car allowance" I have no idea, it really has nothing to do with a car. Revenue refer to it as a "round sum allowance".

Your employer could call it your "living allowance" or whatever, though I guess The Irish Times might write an article about RTE paying a living allowance to employees who don't own a home...

odyssey06 · 12-09-2023 12:02PM

Has this car / round sum allowance been included in the disclosed pay figures I wonder.

Car allowance is one of the examples of it listed

Some typical round sum payments may include a:

car allowance
fuel allowance
living or rent allowance
clothing allowance
tea or lunch allowance
travel allowance.

https://www.revenue.ie/en/employing-people/employee-expenses/round-sum-allowances/index.aspx

Neferteena · 12-09-2023 12:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121076030#Comment_121076030

Your mathematical reasoning is way off. RTÉ will reframe & rebrand. RT will be obsolete in this process, & a liability to boot.

saabsaab · 12-09-2023 12:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121099242#Comment_121099242

We should remember that the current incumbent came second to her in the last competition for the post!

RoTelly · 12-09-2023 12:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121100569#Comment_121100569

That was before the move of the NSO over the NCH. Are you sugggesting to me that RTÉ haven't planned anything! and were just waiting for the move?

MrMusician18 · 12-09-2023 12:42PM

It's interesting to note now that we see Tubridy was willing to work for €95k for the next two years (salary less Renault repayment, though it should be noted that the €150k cost RTE substantially more).

It's an interesting observation for the talent market in Ireland in that the top radio presenter was willing to work for €95k.

RTÉ admits paying Tubridy €345,000 more than declared

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