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Cult of Stephen Kenny

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Peter Flynt


    O'Donoghue never had a problem laying into Trappatoni or O'Neill.

    Didi Hamann has just stated what everyone knows. . . If Kenny wasn't from the LoI he would be gone by now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,371 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    2 shots on target in 95 minutes of football….

    the team needs a fresh injection of ideas and confidence.

    We’ve played 5 matches in this group, only scored 5 goals, only amassed 5 points out of 15… we are second from bottom…..

    get someone new in.



  • Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Absolutely. The idea of Kenny being in charge next month is nearly done. Id say he'll be gone quick enough now.

    Maybe the players are happy because they arent being pushed. They are comfortable with failure because Kenny doesnt expect anything else from them.

    Standards. Where are they. We cant be losing consistently to teams like luxembourg, greece, armenia serbia and scotland. Drawing with azerbaijan.

    It really cant be defended anymore.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,390 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Get in Nigel Clough, and Roy Keane



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Peter Flynt


    One of the most interesting things about tonight's match is that the whole thing went flat after half time. It was still 1-1, the game was there to win and all the momentum from the first half was gone. No sense of urgency and the crowd went quiet.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,160 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    He has to go but the players aren’t there. See lads covered with tattoos that can’t hold onto the ball.



  • Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Tony o'donoghue letting this spoofer off the hook. A mess. An utter mess. Actually feel for the guy but he's out of his depth. Interviews are they way he goes on in the dressing room. Wow. Its horrific.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,721 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    Totally out of his depth. Yes, the players aren't there, but I don't think he has the tactical ability to have us play any better



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Not looking too comfortable in the interview, did he had a stiff drink beforehand?



  • Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Id be worried for Stephen in terms of his mental health. He's under serious pressure.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,882 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Shite players.

    Shite manager.

    However even with Pep, would it get much better? Not sure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Bit of a mess really ,he definitely seemed very uncomfortable almost lost during the interview



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭redseat1




    So are you saying a new manager and new players?

    And if players are, as you say, "comfortable with failure", what manager within the FAI budget will change that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,371 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Shows you everything about Kenny, playing shîte, not creating much but waits until the 88th minute to make his last 2 substitutions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    He was never the right man for the job. The cracks were evident from the first game against Bulgaria but some couldn't see it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Peter Flynt


    It is difficult to see Kenny visibly upset. I believe he will be sacked now yet he can claim that he has laid the foundations for the future with the twenty or so players he has brought in. He also had the courage to stick by his convictions and changed the playing style. The results just never came and so it just wasn't to be for Kenny.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,747 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    When he did that pass I thought, that is what Ireland don't have someone to do that.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭redseat1


    Hopefully the next manager brings in a few €50 million level players.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,747 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    The bit I am glad of Stephen Kelly, Didi Hamann, and Richie Sadlier were all on the same consensus A lot of which I was thinking for a long time.

    But given the nature of that other main Ireland thread - where there is the 'cult like' vibe. I was starting to think maybe I was the wrong one.

    Thankfully if 'football men' like those three are speaking the truth and honestly there is some hope. And I am not going mad!

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    To LOI Kenny fanboys.

    What do you want? Do you honestly believe this is good enough and we should continue with it?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,747 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I don't know he always sounds that way at the best of times, he got well paid for the job. I think underage football is where he should be involved less pressure, no need for results, just 'development' of players.

    That is the route I would go if I was him. Sure Noel King hung around the FAI for years like that, with no pressure and no accountability - plus got to stand in as caretaker a few times in the senior gig.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,412 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Yep it's time for Stephen Kenny to go. Sooner rather than later. Tomorrow or Tuesdsy please. Get the manager in and working with the lads before the next match.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Did I read he's on 500+k



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,747 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    What you do when you don't have the players you cover weaknessness, shore up the middle with dogs that can run/harry (no expectation of making passes). Get the ball wide to the fast lads fast. Plus stick to the 3 at the back that is where Ireland are strongest plenty of centre halves. But the midfield is a wasteland creativity wise.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭Motivator


    I just saw the messiah’s interview there.

    ”I’m not trying to make excuses” swiftly followed by a full two minutes of excuses. The game is well and truly up for this dope of a man. He’s constantly outsmarted on the sideline and hasn’t the knowledge or the cop on to change things when things need changing. Zero reaction to Holland switching their set up and zero ability to adapt or change our system to counteract the changes Holland made.

    I thought the first half was decent, there’s an obvious lack of quality in our team so the high press and energy is what we need to be able to compete. Now, any manager worth his salt would know the players would be gassed after 45 minutes 3 days after playing France in crazy heat. Did he take any steps to try and minimise this? No.

    I genuinely want to hear the reasons people have for wanting him to stay. I can’t see any, literally zero, so I’m just curious to know what pro-Kenny fans can say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭redseat1


    To the PL plastic hammer waving barstoolers.

    What manager comes in for a few hundred grand per annum and definitely improves results?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭FarmerBrowne


    He has the charisma and personality of a head of cabbage, its excruciating listening to him in an interview. The LOI fan boys just can't accept that their golden calf is at the same level as an international manager as Irish clubs are in European competitions......severely out of their depth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭Curse These Metal Hands


    Lee Carsely will apparently abandon his promising trajectory in the English set up to come over and lose with us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Probably the same types think shamrock Rovers can compete and win the champions league



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭naughtyboy


    What foundations?

    Kenny came In heralding a new standard of play and his backers said he needed time to make it work

    At the time the majority of people said give him a chance

    For This group to be a success kenny had to beat Greece at home draw with them away and beat Gibraltar and after that anything against France and Holland would have been a positive

    That's it, that's where Ireland are at now and have been for along time

    That's why how trapatoni and Martin oneill were treated is truly bizarre. They actually over achieved



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