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Aer Lingus Fleet/ Routes Discussion Pt 2 (ALL possible routes included)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭Qaanaaq


    When you go on to any airline website there is an "operated by" under the flight number when making a booking, if the operator is different. I think that is all they are required to do to inform the passenger. It is very common these days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,507 ✭✭✭Jack1985


    Their unions agreed to that though (a lot of which were extremely unhappy about that) - So EI aren't withholding anything - It's now subject to negotiation going forward, the two biggest employee groups aren't giving anything away and BA's recent pay increases play into unions hands.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭Van.Bosch


    The covid era is over - fares are higher than before. Paying staff 90% is disgusting. I wasn’t aware of that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭Astral Nav


    Pilots are back on 100% of pre C19 pay (except for new hires) albeit only since August '22. Big shortage of aircraft engineers as more money elsewhere. All AL staff groups have shown a great deal of flexibility in recent disruption events and deserve better from management.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,507 ✭✭✭Jack1985




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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,071 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    The agreement with that particular staff group had a time period. This ended last year and the pay was restored to 100%.


    Regarding the A321 in IAD. Back in my younger years when I was with EI, an A321 had a scrape in LHR.

    I think it needed 8 weeks before return to service. Granted, this is a 20 year old memory.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭bikeman1


    Some pilots are flying full planes across to the US and are still on 90% pay. That’s a fact. They may be new hires, but they are still on 90% of pay. Why would you bother taking a job with EI if that’s how they treat their new hires.

    The engineering staff leaving is a well known issue too. Why do they allow this to happen? The downward spiral continues. I for one would prefer that the airline pays its engineers the going rate and the pilots their full salary.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭kevinandrew


    EI-DVI returned to DUB this evening shortly after take off, emergency services were on standby. A technical issue according to a passenger on board.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭kevinandrew


    We’ve got another one; EI-NSA was met by fire crews upon arrival at Heathrow this afternoon, the aircraft was inspected and followed to stand by a number of emergency vehicles.

    Still at Heathrow, two hours later.

    EI-DVI was at least back in the air after spending most of the day on the ground after its return to Dublin last night, albeit three hours late on the Geneva service.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,440 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Departed about an hour late back to DUB & scheduled on the 06.20 to Rome in the morning



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭kevinandrew


    EI-NSA? Nothing showing on FR24 since its arrival this afternoon and the return flight (EI169) was cancelled. In fact the aircraft was sitting in darkness at LHR when I last saw it, that was nearly 9pm.

    I see it is indeed expected to do Rome in the morning but last I heard and saw it was still on the ground at Heathrow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭EchoIndia


    The Privilege Style 757 is operating EI672 DUB-BUD this morning - evidence no doubt of further juggling to operate the schedule.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭Mebuntu


    EI-NSA incident yesterday was live on youtube. You can watch it back here:

    The landing itself is at approx 39.45 and fire engines at 46.36.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭MICKEYG


    What am I missing? It looked like anormal landing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,440 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Must have been a FR glitch cause when posted last night it was reflecting an operated leg back to Dublin along with Rome to come this morning.

    Neither showing on my latest check with it still in LHR



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭kevinandrew


    Looked pretty normal but rolled much further down the runway for usual Aer Lingus arrivals at Heathrow.

    Now on its way back to Dublin as EI991.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭NH2013


    There appears to be a significant number of transatlantic flights on the Aer Lingus network cancelled over the last few days, Philadelphia twice, LAX yesterday and looks like this mornings New York flight didn’t go either, the pilots apparently on an unofficial work to rule based on the Airliners.net thread, they’re not agreeing to coming in to work on their weekends off. Far from ideal with them being down an LR as well still in Washington DC.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭EchoIndia


    Mainstream media very slow to pick up on issues like this unless it gets flagged by discommoded pax on social media.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,679 ✭✭✭California Dreamer


    -LRD out of commission until Mid-October at the earliest. The tab on that one will run around $10m!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭sherology




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,679 ✭✭✭California Dreamer


    That I wasn't told, but I would assume Alabama.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,366 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    Airbus has a US manufacturing facility in Mobile Alabama would be logical if they support such works.

    Relatively short flight unpressurised, under 10,000 feet would be interesting



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 257 ✭✭Gary walsh 32


    Washington flight cancelled today aswell covid is doing its rounds again could play a factor in staff been out sick



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭NH2013


    It also looks like the inbound flights from Philadelphia and Los Angeles were cancelled yet again today, as well as the Washington flight due to the pilots protesting and not working. Is Philadelphia a route they typically cut? This is the third time this week. I guess as AA have a B777 on the route as their joint venture partner so can take some of the disrupted passengers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 727 ✭✭✭Lockheed


    The inbounds are only cancelled because the outbounds were cancelled the day before 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,679 ✭✭✭California Dreamer


    Short on crew and very short on goodwill by crew due to the stall in pay talks and return to 100% pay for some. Pilots have more power to disrupt things so you get more support from other employee groups when they don't go above and beyond. Executive team choosing not to engage isn't helping things!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭shamrocka330


    Not sure you meant what you said but “the pilots protesting and not working” is an unfair statement. The pilots are working their full hours and in many cases are burnt out due to the working schedules they have to work. The issue at the moment is that pilots aren’t coming in on their days off which they are entitled to do.

    As the poster above has already said, goodwill is low amongst pilots due to the stall in pay talks and the return to 100% pay for some - this is something senior management need to address.

    For example, the constant hire ins is a result of poor management - the fact that EI have to pay the next 10 pilots due their seniority a months higher rate salary to compensate them for each hire in highlights the dysfunction going on at the moment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 557 ✭✭✭ohigg84




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,993 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash


    Balked landing followed by a fu**ed up go around resulting in a tail strike in IAD is the short story on it! The thing is fuc**d by all accounts! Might see her home in 6 weeks or so



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 557 ✭✭✭ohigg84


    Actually I just googled it to find out more. I'm really surprised at this. How did the crew balk up the landing? I understand that the crew originally came in too low.

    I can't fathom an EI crew doing this, it's so out of character.



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