General Premier League Thread 2023-24 Mod Note in op 27/6/23 And 21/05/24

nullzero · 27-08-2023 12:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121032722#Comment_121032722

I never said I had a problem with it.

The Rashford penalty was a penalty regardless of whether opposition fans are happy about it or not.

All this constant conversation around decisions in United games is pathetic.

Penalties are never penalties when they're awarded to United, if a player is sent off against United it's never a red card.

It all evens out over the course of the season anyway, it's not like United are on the march to the title on the back of dodgy decisions, it's just hatred being expressed in the most impotent manner possible.

doc_17 · 27-08-2023 12:15PM

”initiated the contact” means the attacking player moving their leg towards the legs of another player to deliberately initiate a contact that wouldn’t otherwise have happened. It’s done all the time. Perhaps the reason Utd are talked about more is due to the year they got a record number of penalties and lots of them were for that? Didn’t Bruno score 14 penalties in 19/20 season?

27-08-2023 12:28PM

For every post complaining about United there's usually 5 or 6 defending them, maybe lay off the paranoia.

27-08-2023 12:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121033414#Comment_121033414

No paranoia. Just find it odd. This thread is usually dead, except when United are playing. Martin Keown for example shouldn't be allowed to talk about Manchester United.

27-08-2023 12:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121033414#Comment_121033414

Much of the criticism or "analysis" about it is extremely biased or pure rubbish 2 lads yesterday essentially said yesterday if the rules weren't the rules then we wouldn't have scored a goal and over some other incident I forget now I mean wtf is that even.

And your ratios are way off tbh I doubt it's even 50/50 in terms of defending against the whinging

BillyHasMates · 27-08-2023 12:44PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121033320#Comment_121033320

Tbf there is plenty of talk on here when it is decisions involving Liverpool and City and is typically skewed by club loyalties / rivalries. It's definitely not unique to Utd despite the impression you are getting. You have a couple of your own posters who only decide to improve their post count whenever there are debatable decisions involving Liverpool.

27-08-2023 12:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121033486#Comment_121033486

There is a difference between an opinion and outright hatred. He's on the same level as that talksport Gabby one.

27-08-2023 12:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121033368#Comment_121033368

He didn't initiate contact, he didn't throw his leg back or anything the contact was around the knee. Was it enough to bring him down nearly always impossible to say.

United also got 3 penaltieas last year lowest in the league awarded, and were low enough the year before the fact you are holding a grudge over something that happened 4 or 5 years ago is funny.

Penalties are just something that are highly variable and are usually down to defenders making mistakes, even city aren't near the top of the penalty table every year (although they were last 2 years) and they dominate most games.

People just read way too much into it especially when they are bringing **** that happened years ago into the discussion

machiavellianme · 27-08-2023 01:45PM

Speaking of penalties, Haalands was woeful. Delighted for him.

BorneTobyWilde · 27-08-2023 01:47PM

Haaland is forever dragging people down, and claiming it's him getting dragged down, and he never gets booked for it, does it ongoing.

doc_17 · 27-08-2023 01:57PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121033523#Comment_121033523

I didn’t say he was initiating contact, I haven’t even seen it. Someone asked what initiating contact meant and I outlined what I think it meant. Utd were very good one year at winning penalties and paid a price for it then for a year or two because refs were on to what they were trying and reacted, maybe overreacted in some cases. But when you award a penalty, then see what you awarded it for, you’re going to be wary about awarding it again. There was also a rule change too about winning penalties by “initiating contact” after that season when a record number were awarded. Maybe you think it’s a grudge, but it’s just the facts.

citytillidie · 27-08-2023 02:04PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121033015#Comment_121033015

But there was contact, not enough for him to go down like he did but that is where football is at the moment in England, you stay on your feet you get nothing.

~Rebel~ · 27-08-2023 02:24PM

Relentless pressure, was only a matter of time.

Fitz* · 27-08-2023 02:27PM

No disrespect to Sheffield United, but imagine running onto the pitch and getting a big stadium ban, just to celebrate a goal against a promoted side. In August.

If it was a late winner in a derby, or against a title rival in April/May, it might be different.

What a clown that City fan is.

pjohnson · 27-08-2023 02:27PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121033486#Comment_121033486

Tbf there are some pundits who are just dense and utterly insane with rubbish takes, Aluko and Agbonlahor for example rarely seem to be addressing any kind of reality at all. Others like Keown are comically biased.

27-08-2023 02:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121033835#Comment_121033835

Rashford didn't initiate contact that's all I'm saying.

See you are seeing patterns where there aren't any, it's juts united won a lot of penos one year and didn't others simple, it's as bad as united fans claiming klopp giving out had some effect on the penalties we won. (There could be some arguements towards style of play but also the many rule changes over those years of course but that would require quite the deep dive into all penalty incidents involving united over the 5 years not just the ones awarded)

If refs thought united were diving or initiating contact they wouldn't give the original penalties they arent collectively not going to give us penalties to punish (what you see) past failures that's nonsense

There is no facts in what you say but plenty of conjecture for sure

noodler · 27-08-2023 02:45PM

Sky commentators have a very low threshold of what constitutes a foul when it comes to Grealish

mobydopy · 27-08-2023 02:46PM

Sheffield Utd equalise in the 84th min !!

~Rebel~ · 27-08-2023 02:46PM

Some finish! City slacked off a wee bit and paid for it.

ShamoBuc · 27-08-2023 02:47PM

Very poor by Walker. Too cocky altogether.

ShamoBuc · 27-08-2023 02:49PM

Great finish by Rodri.

~Rebel~ · 27-08-2023 02:50PM

Boah, didn't last long :-/

sligeach · 27-08-2023 02:51PM

Sheffield United equalised with 5 minutes to go and I just knew they wouldn't hold on to it.

y0ssar1an22 · 27-08-2023 02:52PM

what a waste that shot was

golfball37 · 27-08-2023 02:53PM

They’ve missed one sitter and another good chance to level it again

nullzero · 27-08-2023 02:53PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121034099#Comment_121034099

It's against City who have the most over powered squad in the history of the game, no surprises at all.

There's no fairy tales in football anymore just state backed clubs lording over everyone.

noodler · 27-08-2023 02:59PM

Who was the long haired SU player who let Walker take the ball back at the byline for the winner?

Won't sleep tonight

Bounty Hunter · 27-08-2023 03:05PM

The order might change (hell we are only 3 games in so it should really) but I could see that bottom six being the bottom six for most of the season. Huge gulf between the top teams and the bottom teams now imho.

mjsc1970 · 27-08-2023 03:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121033978#Comment_121033978

Can't listen to the vast majority of them. I couldn't care less what they say.

DAngelo Bailey · 27-08-2023 03:37PM

How's that not a second yellow for TAA?????? Ref has bottled it

General Premier League Thread 2023-24 Mod Note in op 27/6/23 And 21/05/24

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