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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,305 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Let's be fair, here - he obviously said the qualifying part trying to be funny, in that Fox News Greg Gutfeld type of way, and to negate the double-entendre aspect of the latter part, same way as 'no homo' has been thrown around on the internet for years for the same reason. I'd say he'd want to generate controversy with that excerpt because he can then go on about humourless liberal hand-wringing or some such.

    There are better things to take him to task on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    It would be good for a court ruling on the 14th Amendment. Would presume if there are a number, that it would elevate quickly to the Supreme Court. Despite that being a flawed body, a judgement on the issue needs to be made, not simply acted upon by any junior official.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Looks self executing to me. But this won't stop Republican Secretaries of State from allowing him on the ballot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,695 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


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    ..

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,285 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


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    Haha - what a pathetic child!

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Dexter Bumpy Turquoise


    Even Laura Ingraham can't abide the bollocks.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Nothing more pitiful than WASPs mentioning black people like they're some oddity and strange alien species.

    Trump the rebel? Swagger? No pixel, for once I won't use the "oh you're serious let me laugh harder" gif, I'm wearing it out.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,779 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Isn’t this the same guy who “won” a Senior competition at his course a short while ago, despite only competing on the second day and using some make-believe score from previous personal games to give him a winning score for the day he *didn’t* attend?

    Going to bet that he “won” again, in the sense that he didn’t at all and some mucking about in the score cards happened.

    Apparently he also simply cheats:




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Cheats at golf. Cheats on his wives. Cheats his workers. Cheats at elections: I'm beginning to think Donald Trump mightn't be a stand-up guy.

    But he makes those blue haired feminists and soy boy cuck beta woke libs angry, so that's good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,862 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,285 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Now, you see, here's where you're wrong.. because Trump doxed a lad at the course so that we would *know* his score was legit!

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    See??

    (Totally sane thing to do!!)

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,019 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,426 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    I certainly believe there was no HankyLankey

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,245 ✭✭✭check_six


    People want to play golf with yer man simply to get an outrageous cheating anecdote to share with their friends. They'd be terribly disappointed if he didn't cheat at every turn.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,285 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,963 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,305 ✭✭✭✭briany



    People like Loomer just want attention, and this is one of the things that handicaps Trump's 'movement'. Trump's crazy, but he's also surrounded by people who are trying to out-crazy each other in order to get a seat at the table, so they can have cash and notoriety. I doubt Loomer believes a word of what she's saying. Her motivations are more than likely very shallow.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Listen. Any golfer who tries calling themselves an Athlete, nevermind Trump, deserves ridicule. And yes I appreciate there are probably some golfers in this thread - face guys, you're not getting exercise and nobody's fooled. The 19th hole undoes the work 🤭 That's speaking as someone who used to play golf, many moons ago too lol.

    I daresay the bullshít Trump has tried on the golf course would fill books. And probably will, when he croaks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,305 ✭✭✭✭briany


    The professional ones have as much right to call themselves athletes as shot put throwers do, and keep in mind that shot put is listed under the umbrella of athletics, despite it being essentially throwing a heavy ball, with a little spin.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,468 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    History is replete with examples of states, nations and movements that fell apart once the initial galvanising force disappeared. They won't admit it but what passes for big beasts in the MAGA demographic know that Trump is done one way or another. Maybe he's found not guilty but he's not winning in 2024. He's in terrible shape, lives a tremendously unhealthy lifestyle and is already extremely old. Were he not Trump, he'd have anointed and legitimised a successor but that's what someone with foresight and common sense would do.

    This is not a man in his prime. Once he's either dead or in prison, the MAGA movement will engage in all out civil war on social media.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,962 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    That image is fake. Saw it popping around on Twitter a few weeks ago but it's photoshopped.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Good point. From Genghis Khan onwards, the problem with power through personality is that once the personality goes, there's nothing left to hold things together. Movements and countries fragment once the centre of gravity is removed; and in many respects we're seeing this BEFORE Trump dies - look at MTG, already crying havoc and trying to wage war with Fox. The GOP candidates are already tearing each other to shreds over the kind of Reverse Purity Tests usually seen in liberal circles.

    The right are already eating themselves and Trump hasn't even become worm food yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,902 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,468 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Thanks. I've removed it.

    The other point is that the personality never builds any sort of structures of long term support to supplant the personality once the time comes.

    A decade ago, I'd have said that the left's biggest problem is its inherent factionalism. It's so baffling to see the right steal this and indulge in it to this degree. The Republican party as an entity will endure but it'll be horribly scarred in the process.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    The other point is that the personality never builds any sort of structures of long term support to supplant the personality once the time comes

    To that: personality can, to an extent: see Napoleon 3 (The Search for Spock), basically rebuilding Paris cos he could. Even the big N himself left lasting structures not just in France but informed much of Western Europe's legal structures. A single figure can drive change if they're inclined towards some notion of civic duty. Or just wanna demolish all those slums and build the Parisian equivalent of Delta City.

    And to Trump, he had control of every single branch of government - yet still failed to do the one thing he promised in 2016, Repeal Healthcare. He's a provable failure who can't even use his personality to get stuff done. So the cult of personality isn't just finite - it's built on straw.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,305 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I'm beginning to think that Trump will live another 20 years at least, just to spite death. People have been saying how he can't have long left due to his age and apparently unhealthy lifestyle, and yet here he still is. He's not retiring, he's not got the feet up, he seems to be powered by a kind of evil determination to get even with people and be adored by his followers. There can't be any complacency, sitting back thinking that he's going to drop dead any day now.

    I really think that the only person who can take the throne of Trumpism is his son Don Jr. . He's on his way to being as slimy and megalomaniacal as his dad. I don't think Trump really trusts or respects anyone else outside of Don Jr., Ivanka and Baron anyway. He'll want it to be one of them if he can ever accept it won't always be him.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,468 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    That's the thing, though. Napoleon (I & III) both had brains and abilities. As an aside, what do you mean "The search for Spock"?

    In 2016, Trump promised this and that only to end up doing what everyone who'd read a book like David Cay Johnson's knew he would do: enrich himself and his cronies like a particularly abysmal medieval king. I actually struggle to think of a King of England who was that bad now that I think of it.

    He was so crap in every conceivable way and yet the devoted remain just as zealous as ever.

    Who's to say? What's certain is that he's become the worst version of himself and that's saying something. 2016 Trump pretended to have big ideas and solutions. 2023 Trump is a rapist and a fascist pursuing a vendetta and nothing else.

    Can Jr take over just like that though? There's a lot of empty heads with evil hearts and loud mouths to contend with. I can't see more than a few of them just getting in behind him. There's also Eric and Ivanka. I can't see anything other than turmoil for conservatism in the US post-Trump.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,305 ✭✭✭✭briany


    @ancapailldorcha

    Who's to say? What's certain is that he's become the worst version of himself and that's saying something. 2016 Trump pretended to have big ideas and solutions. 2023 Trump is a rapist and a fascist pursuing a vendetta and nothing else.

    Can Jr take over just like that though? There's a lot of empty heads with evil hearts and loud mouths to contend with. I can't see more than a few of them just getting in behind him. There's also Eric and Ivanka. I can't see anything other than turmoil for conservatism in the US post-Trump.

    I think what we're now seeing is 'Dark MAGA', although this may not be deliberate on Trump's part. What I mean is the dropping of all the pretence of appealing to moderates and the 'spicy' counter-cultural elements of MAGA where Trump was hitting everyone with funny jabs and quips and making 'libs' cry and become outraged. It is now just rage and vengeance. It is possibly the clearest look at the 'thing' that the American conservative has been nurturing and feeding with ignorance/fear since Obama got elected. Like that scene in David Cronenberg's version of The Fly where the face falls off and you fully see the monster behind it.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,468 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    No, this is just what MAGA always was. They've just ditched marketing it. They're treating like it is some sort of revolution with any detractors being labelled as counter-revolutionaries who must be destroyed, particularly since they've gone after glorious leader.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,974 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    I'm sure his presidential library will be like Graceland to his supporters. I do wonder where he will be buried for maximum exposure. His legacy won't be building projects and I doubt they will name any ships or buildings after him so I think it will be a distorted memory of what he achieved. I could easily see alot of republicans voting him the second best president in the last hundred years after Reagan



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