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RTÉ admits paying Tubridy €345,000 more than declared

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,302 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    I have heard that idea mooted previously and I think it was mentioned on the thread here too.

    I actually thought at first that was possibly why he stepped away from presenting the LLS. We didn't know then what we know now, obviously.

    I would say he would have been easily tempted to put his name in for it. He was very fond of interviewing the present incumbent also. I believe there was an interview with him in Áras an Uachtaráin on the last LLS.

    I suppose if Bertie Ahern fancies his chances, so can Tubridy! 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,520 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Bertie's only chance of winning is if RT was the only other candidate.

    Another chancer that thinks he was hard done by

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Posts: 24,207 ✭✭✭✭ Iker Wrong Trainer


    He and Duffy in a head-to-head battle for the Áras, can’t wait! 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭stevejr


    Tubridy's exceptional treatment does pose an interesting question.

    What was nature of the relationship that Noel Kelly had with Dee Forbes?

    It was very unusual at the PAC, that Kelly was keen to understate the extent of his relationship with Forbes. If you were to believe him, they barely knew each other. Half strangers according to him. Why though? And why did Kelly later during PAC refuse point blank to answer the straight question of how many of his clients in total were on RTEs books? Turns out Kelly derives so much of his business from RTE that he couldn't have had any but a close relationship with Forbes.

    Either way there was some strange dynamic at play between Forbes and Kelly. Bryan Stanley, during the PAC alluded to this. He questioned this strange state of affairs with his now infamous Chocolate Sales Man line of questioning of Kelly. But the line of questioning was pertinent.

    How did a former Cadbury's Rep apparently bully a DG of RTE into such a mess? Notwithstanding Kelly's client-base, he should have been in no position to get these deals for his client. Were Forbes and RTE so weak and complacent that they sleepwalked into this mess?

    Strange carry-on altogether.

    Post edited by stevejr on

    What's the reason for being reasonable?

    Is that an unreasonable question?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,396 ✭✭✭Higgins5473


    Niall Boylan would be considered “far roysh” by the RTÉ mgmt/govt mandate the presenters are under. Probably also by the majority of tubs radio show listeners.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,722 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Since the Mary Robinson success, the presidential elections have been littered by “shoe-ins” and “popular” candidates that have ultimately done atrociously at the polling booth - I think the Irish electorate when it comes to the presidential election aren't easily hoodwinked and have a very clear idea of the sort of person they want to represent them- just one wrong word or a story can see a popular candidate fall from Grace quicker than…..RT🤪

    - I consider Higgins lucky because he was up against the most random collection of completely unsuitable people possible to hold presidential office that all he had to do was stay alive to win it 😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,722 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    It sounds like back in the day, he was in the right place at the right time- no one else was doing what he was doing or doing it quite so well, and it became not just a monopoly of sorts but maybe the accepted way to do business- it suited RTÉ because they could just establish a relationship with one company and no one would rock the boat- an easy life for all.

    Looking back at it now, it’s a horrendous lack of procurement compliance and governance - again another good reason not to employ RT right now and to clean up how all these decisions are made.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,465 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Time for change folks….. time to wipe out the 0900-1000 slot into distant memory.

    Lookit …. every bank holiday marty Morrissey in for two hours at 0900

    Collins was then in for two hours

    News for 30 mins then music for another two hours …..I could go on.

    Change the fohhking record…. Something different please ….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,722 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Ronan Collins was the only decent show in that line up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,465 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Would nt agree there Ozzie, had a good innings , became ‘music by numbers’ and repetitive.

    I respect your opinion though.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭z80CPU
    Darth Randomer


    Previously in this thread I've thanked posters who expressed a modicum of sympathy for Ryan Tubridy.

    Here's my own 2 cents of a suggested atonement, which I know already that such eminent individuals like Ryan and Noel shall dismiss as being beneath their dignity (neither could proceed with such indignation)

    Recently, on YouTube, a supposed pro consumer YouTube tech channel was called out: Linus Tech Tips.

    After a staunch protracted and prolonged denial by LTT, the upshot is that the now CEO, other staff members as well as Linus himself published an apology video:

    My Precsription is this

    A Video is Put out , maybe on RTE Player ??

    Noel Kelly in place of the current LTT CEO

    Ryan Tubridy in place of Linus


    But nah, that'll never happen. We're just the little people



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭Ten Pin


    "He and Duffy in a head-to-head battle for the Áras, can’t wait!"

    Dragons last time, snakes next time.



  • Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    He was leaking to the media fur a start , Kevin wasn’t happy about that anyway



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,771 ✭✭✭Acosta


    President no, but if he's still after a good pay day, he'd have a good chance at being elected as a TD. His sanctimonious, faux be kind schtick will appeal to many a gobshite. Plus, he also has the family connections for a run in politics.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭stevejr


    Gas that Ahern or Tubridy would ever consider themselves electable as President. Or that anyone would vote for them.

    We've been very lucky in our presidents on the whole. I know the Aras is a bit of a retirement home and largely symbolic but it's an Office that could be abused by an unsuitable person. Luckily we haven't elected any eejits, ever. They have all had the best interests of the Office, and in the main, the people at heart.

    At least Ahern has 'done the state some service', but still the former Finance Minister without a Bank Account would be scorned by many of the electorate, his shenanigans now somewhat overshadowing his achievements.

    Any mentions of Tubridy for President would be disrespectful of the Office itself.

    What's the reason for being reasonable?

    Is that an unreasonable question?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Perhaps but he won't find public adoration on Virgin or Newstalk.

    'Is there no way back' seems to be his one & only ploy. If RTE/Bakhurst have any sense at all, they'll keep the door politely but firmly shut.



  • Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I genuinely think nk was pulling the strings lately and was trying to use tubs by proxy to vindicate himself if any wrongdoing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,722 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Ah I miss him- early morning radio back in the early 80s for me growing up was Ronan Collins Fr Brian Darcys 7.15am slot and sometimes the occasional but incredibly funny Eugene Lambert with his puppet being rude😀- ah good innocent times .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,465 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Entitled to that view Ozzie, innocent times indeed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,722 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Yeah but look at some of the numpties that have achieved council nominations in the past and have got onto the ballot; NONE of them were worthy of the office - I guess that’s why voting in such elections is so important to prevent such eigits from getting past the post- the political parties must also share collective responsibility in putting forward appropriate candidates reducing the chances of it becoming some sort of Im a celebrity voting thing.



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  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    I found it strange, with all the talk about money problems for RTE, that they have announced that Kathryn Thomas is to team up Daithí Ó Sé to host this year’s Rose of Tralee. Are there profits in the festival that pay for this, or do they now pay Kathryn Thomas the same amount as Daithí Ó Sé was on - doubling their costs? Sorta off topic, but not at the same time...



  • Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    he has some fairly obvious traits they would not benefit him in politics, mainly around knowing when not to say anything



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,722 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    So I’ll take a few guesses here, the main one being, having a man- yes a man- as the sole presenter of a show devoted to women- yes women- just isn’t the done thing these days, so RTÉ “must be seen” to being “INCLUSIVE” 😀

    As for the money end of things, it’s possible such gigs are already in their contracts but either way, given public opinion the way it is these days, the day of men hosting lovely girls contests on their own is well and truely finished.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,302 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    Yes, I think I asked the same question earlier in the thread.

    It seemed like shockingly bad timing to announce it, if it does mean they have to pay more. I wouldn't watch the programme for 170k 😉 but from what I read of it, over the years, Daithi didn't seem to need anyone else on board with him.

    Would it be that they are making up hours of work for her, iykwim? That she is already paid for under her contract? I don't know tbh.



  • Posts: 24,207 ✭✭✭✭ Iker Wrong Trainer


    Ryan has a very firm following by a certain unquestioning cohort of society who believe entirely that he is 100% motivated by #kindness. Mostly women in my own age group, some young women too, and men of course, but all minded to think their hero really can’t do any wrong. It’s a cult worship phenomenon, not one I get myself as my mind can be changed about any figure or person given new evidence, and indeed sometimes I like people even though they might be terrible in a very human or rascallish way, but it’s not because I believe they are perfect or beyond my own criticism. Some people negate all potential negative emotions about a chosen hero; they are the cohort of see nothing wrong whatsoever with Ryan’s dealings.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭stevejr


    I'd find it hard to believe that was some over-arching strategy of his Oscar. He's not at that level where of some master strategist playing Chess while everyone else plays Chequers. That would require him to play a long game he just hasn't got.

    It's been all about the short game with Tubridy and Kelly. They don't seem to play the clock forward on their actions. At least not in this crisis, from what I've seen.

    Perhaps Tubridy has some fantasy in his head about the Presidency, perhaps fancies himself as JFK. Sure we all thought we were ninjas after watching The Karate Kid, as kids. Maybe Tubridy has delusions after writing his JFK book.

    Either way, he's more of a chance of getting shite out of a rocking horse.

    What's the reason for being reasonable?

    Is that an unreasonable question?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,114 ✭✭✭yagan


    Indo headline today,

    "Kevin Bakhurst wanted an excuse to pull out of deal, says Tubridy inner circle"

    So doubling down on the doubledown.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 411 ✭✭head82


    Upon hearing of Bakhursts decision to bring Tubridy back, my initial reaction was, "ah here we go again. 'meet the new boss, same as the old boss' ". But to be fair to him he had a delicate balancing act to perform in his attempt to keep all invested parties happy.. the licensce fee payers, the divided RTE staff, Tubridys dedicated listnership (all 4 of them) and even Tubridy himself. It was an impossible task. There was always going to be at least one disgruntled party. It was a brave attempt and he was inevitably going to receive flak regardless of what decision he made.

    Tubridys leaking of private conversations between himself and KB might have been forgivable but the release of the Wednesday evenings statement after the GT report (before running it past his employer while in the final stages of a new contract negotiation) was the the final straw. Tubridys lack of humility and awareness of knowing when you're onto a winner is breathtaking!

    Despite Bakhursts rocky start.. going on his holliers in the first few weeks of a prominent position.. I have renewed faith in his abilities to clean up RTE.

    Now if he can deliver on his vow to downsize the payments to the 'talent' (are you listening Mr. Duffy, Darcy et all?) .. there might just be some hope for the role of PBS in Ireland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭mrsdewinter


    Puppetry... on the radio. Talk me through that



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭Orange-Coca-Cola


    This mainly.

    “It is also clear that my actual income from RTÉ in 2020 and 2021 matches what was originally published as my earnings for those years,” he said.

    It seemed to imply that he did not owe RTÉ the money and also that all of the mistakes made were theirs. He was owning nothing. Also he was not helping to end the scandal.

    It is understood his position is that the payments were from Renault and the UK barter company rather than RTÉ and were related to work distinct from his RTÉ work.

    However, Mr Bakhurst said he was “particularly disappointed” with this statement and that Mr Tubridy had to accept the restated figures were correct.

    He sought clarification from Mr Tubridy’s lawyers, who are understood to have told him that their client was not “in any way inferring that RTÉ was incorrect in relation to its restatements”.

    From here https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/tubridy-did-not-want-to-cause-difficulty-for-rte-with-statement-sources-say-1516579.html



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