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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,514 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,360 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Saw this today.

    The Hwasong-18 missile’s physical dimensions and its flight trajectory data appear “nearly identical” to those at of Russia’s Topol-M ICBM, says the report, authored by Theodore A. Postol, a professor emeritus of science, technology and national security policy at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. ...


    The rocket is solid-fueled, making it harder for Western intelligence to detect than liquid-propellant ICBMs. The test last month, observed by North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, was the first successful launch of a solid-fueled ICBM. The test also demonstrated the Hwasong-18’s ability to deliver multiple thermonuclear warheads as far as Washington, the report said, and deploy decoy canister countermeasures to evade U.S. missile defenses. “The sudden appearance of these advanced capabilities is difficult to explain without cooperation from the Russian government and its scientists,” Postol wrote.

    Not good if correct. Russias' leaders are desperate, would sell their souls for help with this invasion (if they had any!). The Soviet weapons/expertise left over from the Cold war is not safe in their hands IMO. It is a source of chaos, and a threat to the safety of the entire world. I doubt that China would be that pleased to see NKs missiles getting upgrades. Their "(unlimited) friend" is a bigger loose cannon than Kim Jong Un.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,343 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    Interesting read on skynews.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭Virgil°


    Again I'd love it to be confirmed correct but I doubt Ukraine have leapt forward to operating near Tokmak overnight. That would mean a near complete collapse of Russian sources in the south. Seems like a stretch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,501 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    You would be expecting Russian sources on telegram would be mentioning it also. Everything (reporting wise) has gone a little quiet, so I doubt there's been a big breakthrough. I'd love to be mistaken though.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    Probably add another 100k for non-combatants also. That's just crazy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,343 ✭✭✭RGARDINR




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭Ramasun


    I'm so proud Ireland is finally contributing in a meaningful way to AFU.

    Ireland may have a very modest army but they train with the best and can train others.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭SortingYouOut


    I take it you've read his recent stuff then. Would be interested to hear how exactly he has parroted Kremlin propaganda, is there anything in particular you can share?

    God forbid someone sees the grey for a change, has to be black or white.

    Being an outspoken critic of his own country, but sure we know better. Must be a tankie, or Kremlin supporter.

    Beverly Hills, California



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,059 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    He doesn't see "grey", he sees the US as the same black/white villain in every scenario and conflict, personifying countries which is the part of the same reductionism that Wallace, Galloway et al use.

    He shares a lot of the Kremlin's language and views towards Ukraine, allotting blame on NATO, even using Moscow's phrase "fight Russia to the last Ukrainian".

    Just take this:

    In his last interview with the British magazine "The New Statesman", the 94-year-old American analyst believes that Russia is acting restrained and moderate in Ukraine, comparing the actions with the American invasion of Iraq in 2003.


    "When the US and Britain smashed Baghdad to pieces, did any foreign official go to Baghdad? No, because when the US and Britain start a war, they destroy everything: communication, transport, energy... everything that drives a society"


    It's shocking stuff. I protested the Iraq war and followed it on a daily basis. The US didn't "smash Baghdad to pieces", they targeted certain infrastructure, for example energy distribution (which was easier to rebuild and replace) whilst not targeting transformers. I could write a short book on how utterly wrong that comparison is.

    Vatnik soup sums up the linguist well:




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Traditionally, it has been the case that some lefties give a free pass to Russia and China when it comes to imperialism. Even now, you only need to look at Chomsky, Pilger, Waters and our own oddball lefties in Europe to see that it's still the case.

    Even if right now the far right might have the strongest sympathies for Russia, there are still prominent voices on the left who see Russia's imperialism as some kind of reflexive action that can't be helped.

    The main reason for that is that Russia used to target the left for obvious enough reasons but now they also target the right with propaganda and we have something of a horseshoe situation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    There are people who think that only people in the west have personal agency. They think that only western nations can be imperialist. If a large nation invades their smaller neighbour, it's bad when a western nation does it but it's just the way things are if the Russians or Chinese do it. It's as if the Chinese or Russians don't have any agency and just coast into invasions, as if they didn't have leaders with expansion on their minds.

    Basically, imperialism, genocide and all that can be bad or neutral depending on who is doing it. That's why our national embarrassments who go off on Kremlin funded fact-finding missions think that Ukraine deserve being invaded just because they wanted EU membership and a NATO umbrella that the other Warsaw Pact countries like the Baltics got.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    It is the great irony of the Anti West narrative, who'd decry the hubris of imperialism while also dismissing and opining the removal of Ukrainian autonomy like Ukraine had no value of its own. They're not allowed it in the eyes of Chomsky etc and whatever decisions they made were the "wrong ones"; these tankies know better, with all the smug "Western" attitudes they'd claim to rail against.

    I said it before, but with the noted exception of Hungary there's only a unified front against russian aggression east of the Danube and in the Baltic's; they know full well the dangers of Russian imperialism and have no interest in the language of the self-loathing, usually older lefties who think, as you say, that only NATO have the capacity for interference. Or that there's an equivalence between "our" inadequacies and Russia's.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 854 ✭✭✭I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct


    This. Chomsky always stuck in my craw I couldn't put my finger on it, something hidden about him but thankfully the curtains were pulled on the likes of him. Roger Waters another one who was a hero of mine all my life really sickened me with his blind rhetoric.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,840 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    Russel Brand appears on n my YouTube feed talking simile nonsense as Waters. A grifter/egomaniac.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,734 ✭✭✭seenitall


    I met a horrible specimen recently. Middle-aged, Italian. Raving against the NATO, thinking herself very knowledgeable probably as she rejected that anything wrong is happening in Iran, Iran is just a normal country where women enjoy perfect freedom to dress however they like, and NATO is of course evil personified. When challenged on that last one, and told that NATO is needed for European protection, she practically jumped three feet in the air like they do in cartoons: “protection from WHAT??”

    To act like that in these times when we are seeing such awful war crimes committed en masse in a European country, is to be willfully blind, obstinate and vile.

    My only satisfaction taken from that was that she was intending to go and live in Iran herself for a year. Happy travels. Bicth.

    The geopolitics of nations stays the same through time to an astounding degree, I suppose because of the “geo”. The people in the west are further removed from the evils of Eastern imperialisms or expansionisms than eastern Europeans, so they simply can afford to care less, and the contrarians thrive and are free to equivocate anything. I myself am guilty of ignorance of, dunno, the situation in Nagorno-karabakh, but at least I don’t go around pretending that I know the first thing about it, and disgustingly slotting it into some contrarian narrative in my head which carries no resemblance to the factual situation whatsoever.

    Rant/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,596 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Seems to be gaining traction. Might explain some of the quiet on the UAF side last dew days

    Like what a couple of other posters also said, 'North' be 7K away or more.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,168 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    **** Putin, what a stain he will go down in history as.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,734 ✭✭✭seenitall


    Heh, reading too quickly, I read that as “what a stalin he will go down in history as”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,275 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Some sh!t stirring individual (Lore Malore, whoever the hell that is) has started a petition looking to dismantle NATO, and giving the impression that with NATO gone the World will be full of sweetness and light. I've never seen so much waffle. The first line sets things up, and in my opinion it's complete BS.

    "NATO is the military wing of a racist anti-communist hate group who go around the world intimidating democratically elected governments into submission to private capital."

    139 signatures at the last count, and it would never get mine.

    Petition · Disband NATO · Change.org



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Those sensationalist tweets do nothing to help anyone. There's been no movement around Roboytne which we've known about for days. I think guy in the tweet recognises his error but conveniently doesn't delete it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,514 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 854 ✭✭✭I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct


    Brand is hiding in plain sight just like jimmy saville



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 854 ✭✭✭I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct


    Malcontents and contrarians is all they are. Every age has a way of dealing with them eg. the witch trials. Not saying we should burn them but i'd probably turn a blind eye if Clare Daly got dunked in a river and Mick Wallace was put in stocks in O' Connell St.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    Death toll in Chernihiv up to 6 now including a child.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭Addmagnet


    I dunno ... I hate travelling to Dublin, but I'd set off like a rocket, pausing only to acquire the squishiest, ripest tomatoes ...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,051 ✭✭✭jmreire




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,596 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    It had been suspected for a while

    These are also of interest to Ireland as we might be interested in purchasing something like this.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭Virgil°


    Interesting. I seem to recall the understood position was that the Gripen was exactly the right match of capability to maintenance requirement for Ukraine. That is they aren't as fussy as the F16 about landing strips and maintenance so they can be moved around the country and take off from a bog standard roads. So it's not easy to target them.

    But there's feck all of them in existence so they just weren't worth the effort. I also read somewhere that only 6 pilots are being approved initially for the F16 which is woefully short. So Ukraine are exploring the gripen to shore up the initial numbers?



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