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RTÉ admits paying Tubridy €345,000 more than declared

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,943 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    People celebrating because Bakhurst ego took a bruising and he's extended RTs timeout as punishment.

    RT still getting paid collasal money to do nothing and Bakhurst saying he'll be back at an undisclosed date.

    It's a golden circle jerk lads. There's no backbone. There's Egos, nepotism and greed. All being funded by you, you and me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,638 ✭✭✭tom23


    He is not really gone gone now is he? Just an extended time on the bold step.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,082 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Exactly. Surely the BBC and major US networks are clamouring for him to grace them with his services.

    Maybe now he can present the Oscars?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭Field east


    Sean o rourke came back under’ some minor guise’ but RT is a totally different ballgame



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,218 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    RT quick to speak out before but now not a word outta him



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 826 ✭✭✭newcavanman


    North Norfolk Digital night shift beckons for the ' Most Trusted'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,082 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Maybe Ryan can start podcasts giving moral lectures to the Irish ppl?

    He is well versed at speaking on behalf of the nation from on high and “telling off” his audience..

    He is “the most trusted man in Ireland” after all...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,513 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    I wouldn’t be so sure of that. The real fallout within RTE from this fiasco hasn’t fully transpired yet in terms of cuts to pay, conditions and programming.

    I imagine the new DG factored in heavily the “split” he mentioned last night amongst staff to RTs return in his decision.

    Tubridy just has too much baggage at this stage : his agent, creating toxicity in workplace, lack of trust with the public…

    Ryans milquetoast talent clearly couldn’t offset the cons above. He’s just not worth it.

    Im not sure this is going to change in a few months.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 826 ✭✭✭newcavanman



    Brendan O Connor is now a pale imitation of what he once was as a broadcaster. His chatshow was a breadth of fresh air. THE Cutting edge was brilliant but since he replaced St Marian he has become a total insider, toeing the party line at all times.

    Obviously a man who knows that RTE is the last chance saloon in irish media, so just keep the head down and don't rock the boat



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,396 ✭✭✭Higgins5473


    Do you not think that Bakhurst comments about the door being open were just tokenism, trying not kick him more while he was down. You’d have to be one seriously pathetic individual with zero pride to come crawling back after this. Even for a fella with some menial unskilled and low paid job you would be giving the two fingers to your ex employer to hang on to some dignity. Tubridys colossal ego and his bottomless pit of self obsession wouldn’t dream of returning, he’d be a laughing stock, more so that is,



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,082 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Another idea for Noel and Ryan -

    “Toyman: the Musical”

    Such is the popularity of Ryan with Irish children, and of course his special bond with them -

    Croke Park should be block booked for the month of December for what is sure to be a hugely popular and successful musical featuring the golden tones of none other than the Toyman - Ryan Tubridy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭TruthorBust


    Bakhurst has made it clear that Tubridy had no appreciation of how angry his colleagues are with him. He has spent all his life as the anointed special one and has zero self awareness. Even after his 2 previous statements and his committee appearances went down badly he still couldn’t resist issuing a statement defending himself and telling us about all the cards and words of support he is getting. Memo to Tubridy; nobody gives a toss

    His colleagues will now all have their pay cut at next review…….warranted in most cases but not all cases to be fair. And no doubt Tubridy won’t be able to join the dots and see how he bears huge responsibility for this. He will carry on in his “everybody loves me” bubble

    I’m having a few pints later to celebrate the demise of this creep



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,513 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    A key point to always bear in mind is the fact that Tubridy doesn’t actually think he’s done anything wrong. Lying about Renault payments etc. He believes this is “cancel culture” and a “witch-hunt”.

    This is evident in his inability to convey any kind of accountability or contrition and it’s the reason he’s been kicked to the curb. He will never be able to fully accept this. It’s a real insight into his off air persona.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,706 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I am not so sure. He scuppered his return himself and that angered more than Bakhurst I would imagine. He tried to rewrite the narrative and leave himself blameless. Tubs looks very foolish now indeed. And arrogant but we all knew that.

    He may get a job as a TV license inspector.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    KB said the door wasn't fully shut. that's diff to saying the door is open. Think €170K was about right. Seems From this morning's KB interview, they didn't dwell on the past in the future negotiations, but that each should accept their responsibility and by issuing the statement RT hadn't really accepted that position. It's also clear that he didn't take on board that a significant section of RTE staff didn't want him back, which says a lot.

    Also that €170K now is the benchmark in all future contract negotiations within RTE. The other nine top earners I'm sure are very thankful to RT for their wage adjustment. Willing to accept less than half his previous wage, which was already reduced from the mad levels of 10 years ago, says a lot.

    This realism may be one element in saving RTE and PBS.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,709 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Ah , pure “spat my tea out reading that” ..comment😂-Class!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,459 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    I agree with your view on the Backhurst comments.

    I especially noted his response when asked about Tubridy going to other broadcasting outlets, he indicated that Tubridy was free to go ahead and accept any offers incoming,and did not show too much concern.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,459 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    He didn’t say he’ll be back, he said the door wasn’t closed forever, which is a totally different thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,002 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    And how did PK deal with it? He didn't open his mouth. No public statements, no taking to twitter. He has been quiet all summer long. Not seen nor heard from.

    One might even say he was "self aware".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,943 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    It's really not. It was marketing speal. If it meant what you think it meant it would have been along the lines of 'if he does return it wont be to his previous role/slot/show' etc



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,513 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    Let’s just say for arguments sake that Ryan was coming back on Sept 4 and think of the likely effects.

    1. No way would he have the same audience as before. I’d image 1/3 of his audience will turn the dial. Maybe even more. Almost certainly less than what Callan currently draws.
    2. Any kind of public facing messaging about internal reform to restore licence fee would face a far steeper uphill battle.
    3. Resentment amongst staff would remain and impact morale, productivity etc.

    Is Tubridys crazy talent really worth all the above?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,665 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Wouldn't agree that he's a pale imitation of what he was. I think he has just matured. He was much younger then and was probably trying to make a name for himself. He is in his 50s now and I don't there would be that much appetite for him now if he had still the same style.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭Lios67


    It’s often the case when people get things too easy , too young, they don’t realise how good they have it and don’t appreciate how fortunate they are. Plenty of smoke being blown up not helping either. Retiring from the LLS at 50 and getting paid to go on holidays was to be the future. The final show was tacky, the obligatory U2 appearance, for what? , to get a pressie. Some fall in fairness.



  • Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wonder how much tubs “advisors” were paid for the leaks 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,709 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    He avoided or rather side stepped a question on morning Ireland around Tubridy returning in the future- I know he doesn’t want to get caught up on when he thinks the right time will be because then the speculation will start so correct to say nothing, no less that it would make his current decision look like just a total farce.

    I think you and the other poster are right though- he doesn’t want Tubridy back and I don’t think we’ll see Tubridy back under this DG.

    And that might be the making of Tubridy who knows- I think he’ll make some great documentaries on Irish History with independent media companies and sell them to RTÉ and BBC NI and be very successful doing that - I’d say he had planned to do that with RTÉ but that train has now left the station.

    From a radio perspective, I’m thinking some sort of Arts show type programme like what Mike Murphy used to do -maybe on Newstalk- not the worst thing in the world and it would get a daycent following but wouldn’t be paying anything close to 170k a year.

    Tubridy is not nor was ever suited to current affairs - Pat Kenny is probably the master of current affairs and Tubridy is no Pat Kenny.

    Tubridy developed this strange “be kind” sort of persona that was just sounded pathetic and preachy after a while - I think he needs to reverse out of this cul de sac and start again down a different road- he has time to do that but I just can’t think right now what his USP would be that would make him attractive to another tv or radio station - he’ll get offers but he needs to take the right one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    I absolutely think Tubridy is that pathetic individual.......

    He's got nothing else to offer. He can't go down the independent podcast route because unfortunately for him, senior citizens don't do podcasts. If he's not on Radio1 he's inaccessible to a lot of his core fanbase.

    He can't write books, well because, he just can't write them. He's a very medicore writer who needed his brand name to both get books comissioned and sold. Maybe he could try children's books, but he's no longer the glorious Toyman.....

    As for other tv/radio work, I think he's locked into Ireland. As proven when he went to the UK for summer work, his shtick doesn't translate beyond these shores, the Brits saw him for the insincere, puddle deep, non entity he is. Will Virgin take him on? Not any time soon. Would Lord Turbridy seriously want to slum it with plebs in Ballymount, he's obviously far better than that!

    So his decision now is, does he launch into some spurious legal action against RTE to try to hoover up some compensation, although given his status as an out of contract freelancer who has had his contract failed to be renewed, I don't know how that works.. Or does he now go full mea culpa and throw himself on the mercy of Bakhurst and his "friends" in RTE, while putting out afew altogether smarter statements. I think he's fully capable of the latter because he's a man backed into a corner now.

    I think he will make a return to RTE at some point but It will be in a much diminished guise where he's largely out of public consciousness. A small mercy!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,709 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    I’d agree with newcavanman though in that he doesn’t display the sharpness and wit that made him attractive to audiences in the past- he showed RTÉ that you could do a successful show without demanding nearly a million quid a year and I’d say that put a few noses out of joint- all of us (I don’t think there was one exception from the regular contributors) on the TV forum were in disbelief when Brendan’s Saturday night show got canned- it far out punched the LLS.

    Brendan hasn’t really been the same since- he had his 15 minutes in the big spotlight- I don’t think he blew it- on the contrary I think he was a victim of his own success and talent and showed up other highly more paid presenters as being overinflated talentless bores.



  • Subscribers Posts: 724 ✭✭✭FlipperThePriest


    He can do no wrong (inside his own head), reminds me of someone...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,513 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    He developed the “be kind” facade not out of choice but necessity. He isn’t funny nor good looking so he needed something to hook the public with.

    Someone with charm and wit and who was more irreverent and bolshy like Gerry Ryan would have weathered this storm. Ryan’s brittle “be kind” veneer is completely at odds with how he actually behaved.

    I really do think his days as a top draw at RTE are numbered.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 261 ✭✭Munstergirl854


    Talk about having the contract in your hand and blowing it.Schoolboy error to release Wednesdays statement...

    Bakhursts statement was very well written I thought,I wouldn't get too caught up in how certain things are worded,I'd imagine the door open theory is to guard against any future legal action(which I think RT was going to take anyway).

    The comments about trust breaking down may send a damaging message to any future would be employers that he cant be trusted.

    I have to say and I have wondered this from the start, I dont think RT was well got at RTE by the way this whole thing has erupted,think theres more behind the scenes regarding tension.

    Heres a good article explaining the lead up to yesterday's statement

    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/dont-cross-bakhurst-how-ryan-tubridys-comeback-deal-with-rte-was-pulled-over-his-lack-of-contrition/a2134917437.html



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