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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If the shoe were on the other foot, and Trump jailed Joe Biden at this stage of the election campaign; I'm almost certain you'd have a different take.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,915 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Look at you, playing the "Both Sides" card.

    Who had that in todays bingo card lads?

    For every single politician before the GOP collapsed at the feet of the Rapist Conman Donald Trump , Morality mattered.

    It still matters to most people, other than Rapist apologist MAGA Loons.

    The same would be true of Joe Biden. Even if the allegations against his family turned out to be wholly true, I don't believe it would significantly impact the electorate's decision for precisely the same reason.

    No, no it wouldn't.

    I can absolutely guarantee you that if Joe Biden was charged and convicted of fraud/bribery or whatever he would not win the Democratic party nomination and more likely he would be forced to stand down.

    Just because you can ignore vile disgusting abhorrent behaviour as apparently can a reasonable percentage of GOP voters doesn't mean that everybody else thinks the same way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,729 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    But that wouldn’t be the shoe on the other foot at all. Biden isn’t jailing Trump as you well know but are busy pushing your disingenuous take on things.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Whatabout whatabout: if Biden was being charged with the volume of crimes Trump was accused of, I can't speak for others but I would 100% see him thrown in jail.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭I.R.Y.E.D


    Have you ever seen one of them come up with an original thought?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,512 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Trump on Hilary Clinton, LOCK HER UP!!!

    So according to your earlier post that is fascist behaviour. Trump is a fascist. Your argument. Your words. Your own standard applied to your own posts and candidate.

    Check mate.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,915 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Absolutely agreed.

    Crime is crime and if the evidence supports a charge and a Jury convicts then no decent person could or should have an issue.

    This idea of "Blanket Presidential immunity" is absolute nonsense anyway.

    I don't care who you are or what position you hold , if you break the law you pay the price - end of story.



  • Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    But Trump didn't lock up Hillary Clinton, so your point falls flat.

    More of a bird's opening than a checkmate there, @odyssey06.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,284 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Hunter Biden should run for office. Then he would be immune from prosecution apparently.



    (Reference is strictly made to highlight the hypocrisy of Trump fans)

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,629 ✭✭✭McFly85


    It’s pretty sad that people view this as Biden jailing Trump.

    Biden has the square sum of fúck all to do with it. Trump is being charged in various states for various crimes because there is enough evidence to get those to trial. It’s as simple as that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,482 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Or, ANYONE who wants to commit a crime (any crime) could simply run for office and commit any crime they want.


    "Dip-lo-met-ic Im-mew-nety"

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭amandstu


    I think he should be jailed if found guilty but I think,even then it is up to the US to decide.

    What if civil war or frozen political divides is on the cards? I mean ,who really give a * about an abhorrent media whore with zero sense of class?


    It is his supporters and apologists we need to be anxious over.


    If there are alternative ways to humiliate him ,satisfy his victims and placate his crowds of zombies then I am open to suggestions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,512 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    So he's a failed fascist. Typically Trump couldn't pull it off. Doesn't make him any less of a fascist.

    His intent was clear.

    LOCK HER UP!

    Clearly fascistic. Your own words, your own standards.

    Trump is fascist.

    Check mate.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,915 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Indeed - Because he had no evidence , not even enough to bring a charge , just hyperbole and lies.

    Just as the GOP despite all their pearl clutching have yet to successfully bring charges against any of the multitude of people they accuse on TV of committing all kinds of crimes.

    On the other hand there are any number of GOP players and associates that have been charged and found guilty or are pending prosecution.

    On the one side you have bloviating liars who magically go quiet when under oath or who mostly never get past spouting nonsense on TV and on the other you have people that follow the rule of law and present evidence in front of Grand Juries and then those Grand Juries level charges against the offenders.

    And so far , pretty much everyone that have gone in front of a Judge in Trump related nonsense has been convicted.

    Can you see the difference??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭I.R.Y.E.D


    You aren't dealing with people of average intelligence or people who aren't scrotes hence why you see the monkey see monkey do comments about Biden jailing trump online.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭amandstu


    That does seem to fit into Trump's mo of projection.@everlast75 seems to have taken it a step further and it may have been on his mind to ,so to speak prospectively absolve himself by muddying the waters with apparently plausible accusations against others.

    I have long felt he is a kind of Corrupter /Manipulator in Chief who willing dupes are not really much better than he is.


    We are all imperfect but he is able to prey on our imperfections.


    America Worst.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,960 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    "The state department has completed its years-long internal investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of private email and found “no persuasive evidence of systemic, deliberate mishandling of classified information”."

    Trump didn't lock up Hillary Clinton because after a long investigation into Hillary Clinton regarding her emails, there wasn't enough evidence found to warrant criminal prosecution. That's because there is a burden of proof, thresholds of evidence, and an intentional basis to commit criminal acts, which can determine if criminal prosecution is warranted.

    Those things have been found for not one, not two, not three, but (currently) four different indictments, for criminal acts committed by Donald Trump.

    You cannot say the comparison between the two proves your point when there is no reasonable comparison to be made between the two. There is substantial evidence of intentional criminal wrongdoing by Trump. An investigation into Hillary didn't find that. The investigations (absolutely warranted and reasonable in their scope due to the underlying evidence) into Trump has.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,300 ✭✭✭Economics101


    No so: Gislane Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein for starters.

    Compared with South America? Two presidents of Brazil (including the current incumbent) were jailed on corruption charges. There were no riots, only due process. Compered with the likes of Russia, you may not have noticed that the difference is that totally innocent people are locked up, often in cruel and inhumane conditions. How can you compare that with Trump.

    Also you would give any criminal a get out of jail card if he just became and election candidate and thereby immune form "political" persecution.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Give him another term and he would set about dismantling the Justice system(and ororganize a third and subsequent term for his cronies or favoured family member)



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,915 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    He has already made it clear that it is his absolute intention to dismantle the majority of the current Government structure if he was to get back into the White House.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,284 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    No, Trump left the White House and didn't intend on staying on

    you’ll find the DOJ has a much better grasp of this and no, he definitely had no intent on leaving the White House.



  • Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That's at odds with the footage of him leaving the White House.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,464 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I think Trump should absolutely be jailed if found guilty. It won't happen of course because gammony old one percenters seem to be a protected caste over there but it says much about their so-called justice system that it can be this easily exploited by someone like Trump.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    “Oh, right. The poison... The poison for Kuzco, the poison chosen specially to kill Kuzco, Kuzco's poison.”

    Not for lack of trying.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,482 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    I've seen people being kicked out of a pub. Didn't mean they had every intention of leaving.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,915 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    You mean the footage of him sneaking off in a huff and breaking centuries of tradition by not going to the inauguration of his rightfully elected successor?

    Having spent every second from Election day right up to that moment doing everything in his power to hold on to an office that he lost in a free and fair election?

    That's the footage you think shows that Donald "The Rapist" Trump willingly left the White House??



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,960 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Nobody is saying he had to be physically removed from the White House. You're wilfully ignoring the whole "conspiracy to prevent the election results from being certified, trying to have fake electors presented and counted in his favour rather than the official electors, pressuring local officials to claim there were issues with the votes, propagating false claims of election fraud, and riling up a crowd telling them the election had been stolen from them and sending them to march on the Capitol where the votes were due to be certified which resulted in a riot and storming of the Capitol building" thing.

    He left the White House willingly only after every attempt at overturning the results of the election failed and the election results had been certified. However his actions from the night of the election to Jan.6th are not the actions of someone who respected the will of the people and the results of a democratically held election. His actions were that of a wannabe dictator desperately trying to cling on to power through improper and in many cases illegal means. The fact he failed at his attempts does not mean he left office willingly.



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