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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,062 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    Another day, another batch of Russian soldiers complaining about conditions




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,998 ✭✭✭yagan


    What's interesting about that phase of overt Russian emigree support is that it illustrates how the internet can actually be counterproductive to integration when as family and friend units they can stay totally immersed in their home culture, until it actually impacts their immigrant income.

    What happens them in a Russian regime change that gives up claims to Ukraine? They'll bare watching as much as Loyalist paras in a reunited Ireland.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,477 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Reports indicate robotyne is about to fall.

    I've read as well that the next phase will be Ukraine attacking laterally to take over this line of fortifications and move the front forward.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin




    I already posted the links way back, but if you didn't read it try this:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=lancet+drone

    Unfortunately you wont find anything agreeable to you.

    No worries I am finished with boards, I'm off, enjoy !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    I would have thought all the reports in the press and by the Ukrainian military confirming its one of their most feared weapons would confirm to you that they do work.

    No worries I am finished with boards, I'm off, enjoy !



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭Virgil°


    Attacked 🙄. Maybe try a counsellor or a hospital visit if you feel its that serious?

    The thread has gone to shite indeed, if you're posting information from pro Russian sources or not backing up your claims with anything at all. And rightly so. Here look I googled for you:

    Lancet.PNG

    A picture of a lancet getting strung up in a "cope cage". That took me about two seconds worth of googling. And there were several more images easily available of lancets and drones like them getting caught in nets and wiring. So the strategy is at least somewhat effective. That much has been established. Noone is saying lancets aren't an issue. We just aren't gonna take your word for it that the Russians have set up a warehouse thats increased their output by 400% churning out battalions of these things ready to go. And we aren't going to go researching your claims for you either.

    Try harder.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭Virgil°


    In what way does a google link to a search for "Lancet drone" in any way back up anything you were saying about new warehouses and production lines up 400% for armies of Lancets?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,062 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    I was referring to the Russian claims which you referred to of more advanced Lancets and "4 fold" increased production of them.

    Maybe the claim is true, but generally those types of claims from Russia turn out to be false or distorted.

    Just to add, it's important to take Russian claims with a much heavier dose of salt than normal, and to be more skeptical. Indeed munitions like Lancets are dangerous to Ukrainians, but they have their own ways of dealing with them. I am concerned about Russia ramping up e.g. drones, making their own Shaheds, and other tactics - but it's important to put them in context. As for the topic, it's a war, people are being blown to pieces, there's a lot of emotive things happening, so strong feelings from commentators are understandable to a degree.

    Post edited by Dohnjoe on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    The best part about this is they can use that frontline of defense now and strengthen it to suit Ukrainian need's if Russia ever goes on the attack and Ukraine dig in. A possibility over the winter for sure.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,477 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    They might just keep going though until they can put all roads and transport across the south under fire. Ukraine has been targetting Russian artillery for the last few months and apparently Russian counter battery fire has gone quiet in most places. With weakened artillery there could be big moves and we might be seeing the start of that



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    Crack on with the other posters not me, as you have shown there is no issue with the Lancet its an easy weapon to defeat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭Virgil°


    I thought you were done with boards? Are you even reading the words that im writing?

    I literally say in my post above that:

    Noone is saying lancets aren't an issue.

    We're just calling out your assertion that there are new warehouses and production lines up 400% for armies of new and improved Lancets?

    Which you've yet to back up with anything other than Russian sources



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    I said " I saw this morning that Challenger tanks have now been seen sporting cope cages, it seems the only way to offer a limited degree of protection..". And you use google to answer your other stuff, as I said Im off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,051 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Putin supporters will follow Putin from any where they are, until they are "discouraged". But they seem to be dwindling as the world turns more and more against Putin.?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,051 ✭✭✭jmreire


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,515 ✭✭✭zv2


    I've seen many videos of the Lancet destroying SPGs, tanks, IFVs etc. It seems like a lethal weapon. Still, Russia seems to be losing a lot more armor than Ukraine.

    They showed a video of the Lancet production line and they had mirrors on the walls to make it look much bigger. I posted the video some time ago.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Russia have a lot of junk but they also have a small number of kit that's proving highly effective. The Lancet is one of them, perhaps the surprise of the conflict so far. It's unremarkable on paper but they have good warheads incl a proper shaped-charge one for armored targets. They always use them in conjunction with surveillance drones - which Russia seem to field with too little resistance - and tend to go after high-value targets. It's not propaganda to say they're causing a lot of trouble for Ukraine.

    I wouldn't say Russia have a huge number of them but they have a steady stream - every day there's at least one or two unique videos posted and this gives a low-end estimate of how many they can produce (eg 30-60 per month).

    One weakness of kamikaze drones in general is that when they swoop down to attack their target, they lose/degrade the signal from the operator and they also encounter slipstream turbulence if they are attacking a moving vehicle. It's very common for example to see them swoop down on a moving vehicle and totally miss it. So what I would expect to see next is drones that are more autonomous on the final attack phase.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,515 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,596 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,582 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    "What is your major malfunction, numbnuts? Didn't Mommy and Daddy show you enough attention when you were a child?"

    Anyone else getting Private Pyle vibes from that picture?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,051 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Given what Putin has done in Ukraine, I doubt very much if too many ethnic Russians will stay there ( Crimea or Donbass either) no matter how long they have been there, be it the new arrival's or ones whose family's have lived there for generations. The hatred that Putin has generated will last for century's. And for sure you will not have the Russian equivalent of the Loyalist Paras there. (But it would not surprise me if you did not have the Ukrainian equivalent of the Para's striking targets across the border in mainland Russia, even after the war is finished). And who could blame them really? I happened to be in Kosovo when the Serbs left. It was a mass exodus, people, men women and children left on what ever means of transport they could find, trucks, cars, tractors, horse and cart's, walking etc, travelling on packed roads. And there were no Paras or special Serb force's staying behind either. I imagine the same thing happening in Crimea, especially if the Russian forces start to collapse and panic sets in. And if the bridges are out of action at this stage.....unimaginable chaos.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭SortingYouOut


    That military analyst on Sky News saying Ukraine's toughest challenge has yet to come.

    I think Sky News and most news sources these days are just keeping people clicking like dipshits. I'm actually embarrassed for myself as well because I used to read these rags like gospel.

    Is there a single source of information out there that doesn't rely on sensational click bait and isn't biased in views? I want dull, plain facts.

    Beverly Hills, California



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    The unfortunate reality of modern news reporting.

    Reporting from Ukraine on YouTube is probably the best for dull plain facts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭SortingYouOut


    The media used to be the pillar in society that called it for what it was and now easy money has ruined that.

    Do you have any suggestions for unbiased and plainly factual YouTube accounts reporting?

    Beverly Hills, California



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,222 ✭✭✭✭briany


    @SortingYouOut

    That military analyst on Sky News saying Ukraine's toughest challenge has yet to come.

    Considering that the AFU has yet to breach the first main line of defence, this isn't exactly an unfounded opinion.

    Asking for 'unbiased and plainly factual' sources is a bit of a loaded request. An unbiased source in one person's opinion may not tally with yours. I think it's better to cross reference a number of sources to see what remains consistent across the reporting, or you can also just tune out of the minute by minute coverage and keep an eye on the bigger picture. The bigger picture is that fighting has been ferocious and bloody - Ukraine's counter-offensive is proceeding, but progress is grindingly slow - the Russians are dug in - the Russians are trying to divert Ukrainian forces by making some localised pushes of their own - there is a whole other battle going on in terms of trying to strike each others supply lines.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    ????? The media has always been biased towards their reader base, particularly when it comes to war. Just look back on reporting of WW1 & WW2, Gulf War, Falklands or whatever.

    As to the present conflict, I wouldn't believe a word from Russian sources. As to the rest, always with the pinch of salt, but at least there are a lot of Western eyes on Ukrainian affairs and the overall substance of reporting is more reliable, even if losses are less exposed and victories cheered up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭firemansam4


    Yes very true, as mentioned above, these kind of things do seem a little more rare now, could be a case of them "reading the room" and realising that we dont welcome that kind of carry on here.

    The mechanic in Co Kildare who had the Z jeep, got a fair bit of abuse for it afterwards. (Not that I feel sorry for him in any way)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭firemansam4


    I wonder is that because they realise that kind of carry on is not welcome here and other places.

    Or maybe some of them may have changed there minds about supporting the invasion with everything that has happened since. Probably the first.



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