What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

Why not call him a dirty raping bastard?

Defamation is defined as lowering the opinion of that person, in the minds of right thinking individuals....

Well, right thinking individuals couldn't have a lower opinion of him so, is he really defamed?

While you're here, absolutely brand new poster, would you care to answer some questions about someone you jump to the defence of?

Do you think he committed the crimes he is accused of in DC?

Do you care if he did?

Do you think he's racist?

Do you care if he is?

new trumpeters re-litigating previous shambolic embarrassments.

They didnt reject it in terms of positively clearing Trump. It was not proven in terms of the exact nature of the sexual assault under NY definition.

You left out the fact of the judges statement clarifying that Trump is a rapist.

I deal in facts too. And facts are not only determined by juries.

Trump s a rapist.

Fact.

No point in arguing with folks about whether he is guilty of accused crimes, or if he was racist etc, unless the person you are arguing with cares if he is.

If not, why bother.

Trying to defend Trump by arguing it was his finger, not his penis. If it was his penis then, one could argue he was looking for sex, but his finger meant, it was about power and humiliating her.

No the judge does not have the final say if the case is decided by a jury.

The judge is responsible for ensuring the trial is conducted fairly and explains the relevant law to the jury.

The jury is responsible for deciding whether the defendant is guilty though.

That isn't really the win that the Trump fans think it is.

And under Irish law it would be rape.

So there we have it.

Trump is a rapist.

Incredible the hills some people pick to fight and lose on.

It's funny how all these non fans of Trump spend pages and pages being...fans of Trump.

In the real world, prosecuters looking for trial to start on Jan 2nd 2024 in the attempt to defraud the voters cases.

Digital penetration(fingers) versus his penis, it wasn't clear to Carroll which so under New York law, only the latter is rape.

Anyhoo, in news that matters...

Trump literally incited a group of people to storm the U.S. Capitol. He's under several federal indictments. He's been found liable for violating a woman. He's on tape trying to convince the Georgia SoS to somehow come up with more votes for him, even though there was no credible evidence of electoral fraud. He's on tape admitting that he couldn't declassify those documents, but still wanted to show them off (not to mention trying to avoid giving them back). I mean, I could go on and on, here, but I'll try to just keep it to a few of the highlights which are jumping out at me at this point in time.

Remember when U.S. politicians used to be normal? Or at least normal enough that any one of the above would be an unquestioned career-ender, and both parties could agree that this kind of behaviour was completely unacceptable?

People who are pushing back on the rape claim - even allowing that, it obviously does not anywhere near rehabilitate his character to where he has any kind of business being an elected official. Then again, maybe it's time that America admits that their politics has become so performative and oppositional that Trump actually kind of is the perfect representation of around one half of their electorate (including nose holders who are still voting for him).

The great value of Trump, really, is how much he upsets the other side. I'm perfectly happy to admit that when Trump was first elected, I thought it was a good laugh. It was a riveting night. Hillary was unbearably smug and condescending right throughout that whole campaign season. It did feel like it served her right in many ways. But... it's just not been worth it. He has directly contributed to the increasing division of American politics, and I don't mean in the way of CNN attacking him, but with his regular all-caps declarations specifically designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator and keep people angry. The idea of a sitting US president or former US president angrily tweeting in all caps every day feels like it is literally lifted out of Idiocracy. No hyperbole. He was still in office and tweeted, "I WON BY A LOT". A six year old says that when they fail to accept not winning a 1st class art contest, not an adult man. It's nuts that this is where American political discourse has gotten to where that just breezed by, almost.

Again, my very exasperation at Trump still being a major contender for political office is what some people enjoy. Not my exasperation specifically, but you know what I mean. Is it worth it, though? Isn't that just complete nihilism? "I don't want to make things better! I just want to annoy people I hate!" What is that? Is that not a road to hell?