What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

They can't think about it and come to their senses because they've invested too much of themselves in Trump over the last few years that to actually analyse what it means to be a Trump fan in 2023 would be far too much for them. The loss of face is too catastrophic potentially. So instead they employ an elaborate series of coping mechanisms, which have been largely manufactured for them, up to and including a bizarre conspiracy belief that Biden has somehow cheated Trump out of the Presidency and orchestrated a massive attempt to use the DOJ against him.

I've said it before, but it's worth repeating. I find it difficult to imagine anything sadder and more deluded than a Trump fan in 2023, after everything that has transpired.

You were not right.

Collusion was a word put forth by Trump, and it not, in and of itself, a crime.

There was however coordination between trump's campaign and Russia, the details of which were set forth in detail in the Mueller Report.

PS - there were also multiple charges of obstruction of justice set out by Mueller, which showed how hard Trump et Al fought the investigation. Why would he do that if there was no "there there"?

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As for the timing, do you suffer from memory loss?

Throughout Trump's campaign and indeed before it, he carried out certain acts. When there were charges being contemplated, he went to court to seek a declaration that he was immune from prosecution, civil and criminal, and even went so far as to claim that he could not even be investigated, nevermind charged.

Therefore, as a result of these *facts* and at his insistence, he wasn't.

He is no longer president, and therefore he is now being charged.

Facts are stubborn things.

There's clear and obvious evidence of crimes committed by Trump. What do you think the right approach would be, if this is the wrong one? Pretend like they never happened? What sort of precedence would that set? It would give everyone occupying the Presidency in the future a free reign to do whatever they want with no consequences.

Both sides nonsense again.

As I remember, you just posted the number and expected us to accept it unquestioned.

You can post all the pro-Trump stuff you want but the constant low effort digs and the victim narrative aren't going to convince anyone.

That's basically the question that I put above, which obviously has gone unanswered. If there's clear and obvious evidence of crimes committed, those crimes should be investigated and a prosecution should be laid if there's enough evidence. Which is what's happened here. Not charging Trump would simply set the precedent that a President is above the law and can do whatever they like.

OH **** ANGELS ARE REAL?

This changes my whole world view.

....or maybe polls aren't substitutes for evidence of facts. :O

On what basis do you expect anyone to believe you put "partisan preferences to one side"?

Your refusal to engage with facts pointed out to you which contradict your statements, and consistent whataboutery when it comes to Trump's actions clearly demonstrate that you are not, in fact, putting any such preferences aside.

If you want to convince others of your credibility, please address the facts which counter your assertions.

And quit with the pearl clutching.