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RoyalCelt · 09-08-2023 06:29AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120954175#Comment_120954175

No I just get depressed. I'll never call for peace talks or tell Ukraine what to do politically.

09-08-2023 06:32AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120955216#Comment_120955216

Sure you did.

Absolute fecking nonsense

RoyalCelt · 09-08-2023 07:11AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120955232#Comment_120955232

I did. May even have posted these beliefs here but CBA checking.

It makes no sense if this wasn't planned. Wagner were on the verge of capturing Wagner before magically stopping.

It lured out who wasn't loyal to Putin in the military. Had to be a setup.

On another note here's a video of 30 modernized T80 tanks with thermal optics leaving a Russia plant in OMSK which is near khazakstan.

To get these optics they have Found a way past certain sanctions.

Link to video on telegram https://t.me/WarZoneInc/53740

RoyalCelt · 09-08-2023 07:20AM

Russia plans to build Afro villages to resettle white African migrants to Russia between Moscow and st Petersburg. They also plan an American one near Moscow.

https://www.azerbaycan24.com/en/russia-to-build-african-village/

Wibbs · 09-08-2023 07:35AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120955216#Comment_120955216

Occam's razor. That's how it makes perfect sense. Prigozhin's march on Moscow was a spat between mafioso running Russia. He wanted his pay off and wasn't getting it and he knows where the bodies are buried. Putin needs Wagner and him as his international force. They cut a deal after months of Prigozhin baiting putin and a direct threat. The Kremlin spin machine went silent, save for calling Prigozhin traitorous. Until he wasn't, never mind. Weeding out any disloyalty was a happy side effect for putin. This happens in any failed coup and doesn't require some "master plan".

Or you can believe putin purposely planned to show him and internal Russian defences as weak and amateurish, with ordinary Russians willing, even happy to see someone who's not putin in charge and Kremlin politics as a Mexican soap opera.

But like so much Kremlin spin it'll be memory holed soon anyway. Like genetically modified pigeons. Or biolabs(funny how they've forgotten about them). Note too little mention of China or India of late. Instead they've pivoted to Africa(with a small side detour to North Korea).

I find it's generally more informative to look at what they stop talking about. The notable exception being sanctions. They never shut up about how that's not affecting them at all. Like that friend who just got dumped by his girlfriend who tells anyone who'll listen how it's not affecting him and he's never been happier...

RoyalCelt · 09-08-2023 07:54AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120955321#Comment_120955321

Your version also makes sense. There's more then one possibility.

Become Death · 09-08-2023 08:08AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120952169#Comment_120952169

You say that as if it isn't a tactic used in every society, in every country.

mike_cork · 09-08-2023 08:35AM

https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1689184950916976640?t=GHK_B1s7Fse1kEwZCg6d8w&s=08

Another smoking accident in Russia

Brief_Lives · 09-08-2023 08:41AM

this is a tweet about the further use of convicts by russia.

https://twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1689006806067200000?s=20

nacho libre · 09-08-2023 09:08AM

The crime rate might go down in Russia if would be convicts knows they will go to Ukraine to more than likely die than be sent to prison. The Wagner rebellion was not a plot by the Kremlin. This whole beef started in Eastern Syria when the Russian mod were blamed by Prigozhin for hundreds of his mercenaries being killed by the American Army in Air Strikes. He wanted revenge on Shogiu ever since and events in Ukraine eventually provided the opportunity. Putin did not benefit from this rebellion. It makes no sense that a man who has lived off his strongman image would sanction a plot that made him look weak to domestic and international audiences.

zv2 · 09-08-2023 10:03AM

Kursk

https://twitter.com/Alfaiomi/status/1689211722429603841?s=20

Dohnjoe · 09-08-2023 10:29AM

532 days and counting

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1689048477836181504

jmreire · 09-08-2023 11:28AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120955285#Comment_120955285

And highly tanned weapon operators..... So Niger is next on the list for de-Nazification? No, that does not sound right... maybe "De-westernization???

jmreire · 09-08-2023 12:11PM

The thing is, people from this part of the world ( generally EU, UK, US etc ) are thinking in terms of ordered and lawful society's which they grew up in, even when analyzing Russia which is the complete opposite. And tend to give them a certain amount of credence because of that. Its completely wasted, and throws people off the correct path. Russia is one huge mafia with Don Putin at its head. So any western rationality goes out the window when trying to analyze Russian behaviour. Think Mafia, first, last and centre, and you will have a better idea. The Prigozhin "stunt" was not a Putin-Prigozhin plan to squeeze out possible Putin traitors. They wanted him to pay for the weapons the Wagners were using from his own resources, while they were state funded. Spat between thieves.

jmreire · 09-08-2023 12:17PM

Yes, I remember something about that happening...heading for the workers utopia. Came to a sorry end if I remember rightly, and they were not the only ones either. There was another story going the rounds that selected Russians were educated in western style villages, completely isolated from Russia, so that they were the genuine article when later on in life, when they were inserted into the US etc as spies.

breezy1985 · 09-08-2023 12:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120954409#Comment_120954409

NASA satellites reporting signs of a big battle today and Russian military bloggers claiming Ukraine have broken through Russian frontlines on the east bank.

Its always a big moment to lose a river and this will be a huge one.

TedBundysDriver · 09-08-2023 12:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120956368#Comment_120956368

Any links to that?

breezy1985 · 09-08-2023 12:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120956386#Comment_120956386

It's on the Guardian live blog.

I should correct my "big battle" comment though as it's probably a bit over the top. The term used was "significant combat"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/aug/09/russia-ukraine-war-live-updates-drones-shot-down-moscow-attack-capital#top-of-blog

Virgil° · 09-08-2023 01:33PM

Videos circulating supposedly showing artillery shells lying on the ground near the optics factory explosion aftermath.

Would go someway to explaining the absolutely enormous explosion. So it wasn't just a factory producing optics that went boom.

Supercell · 09-08-2023 01:47PM

Reports that the owner was using cheap unqualified migrant labourers, sure what could go wrong in a bomb factory!

Dohnjoe · 09-08-2023 01:53PM

98.1 rubles to the dollar now. "ThE SanCtiOns HaVe No EfFect"

odyssey06 · 09-08-2023 01:56PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120956800#Comment_120956800

"ThE SanCtiOns HurT wEsT MoRe tHaN US"

Brief_Lives · 09-08-2023 02:10PM

xyz

mike_cork · 09-08-2023 02:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120956800#Comment_120956800

"The sanctions are having no impact but we talk about it constantly"

Dohnjoe · 09-08-2023 02:30PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120956904#Comment_120956904

"Also, please remove the sanctions."

Furze99 · 09-08-2023 02:30PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120956397#Comment_120956397

Big boom that should echo right through the Russian chattering classes. Hard to ignore when it's only about 20Km NE of Moscow suburbs.

Wolf359f · 09-08-2023 02:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120956800#Comment_120956800

It costs the US Federal Reserve about 2.8c to print a dollar bill.

Smallest note in Russia is 5 rubles (currently worth 5.1c)

mike_cork · 09-08-2023 02:45PM

https://twitter.com/DarthPutinKGB/status/1689254941934649344?t=1oEbUIr6im3sUyb0zUXkmg&s=19

.....

lumphammer2 · 09-08-2023 02:56PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120942299#Comment_120942299

The Shah is a major example of someone being better than what came after him .... as we speak Iran is probably the second worst regime in the world ... only Afghanistan is worse ... and the Shah's reign now looks like the golden age of modern Iran ...the current ultra hardline Iranian government that took office in 2021 is by far the worst Iranian government of all time ... and created due to Trump's sanctions/leaving the JCPOA ... in turn this government will neither moderate its stifling laws or engage with the rest of the world to improve the economy ... thus assuring social and economic reform are not possible until this regime is gone ...

Shah Reza Pahlavi III would be a much better leader hands down than the guy who prob currently rules, or, ruins Iran who is Mojtaba Khamenei the son of the current ailing leader ... Khmanenei II seems to have a more oppressive and mean streak than even his father ... typical of someone handed power on a plate ... I feel the Iranian people need to get rid of this nightmare regime now ...

Saddam was sort of a Shah meets Napoleon meet Hitler ... Saddam's warmongering made him too many enemies ... and 9/11 sealed his fate even though he had nothing to do with it ... but Americans wanted someone's head for it and thus the war started .. we all know now this war was a mistake but back then Saddam was regarded as a mega villain with armies of terrorists waiting for his order ... and the US govt did not do anything to discourage this myth ...

True a major mistake in US wars was not cooperating with some from within the regime ... today it is clear something needs to be done about both Iran's Khamenei/Paydari regime and Putin .... the latter is off limits for a war in obvious terms ... but could something be done to help Iran's opposition more and perhaps inspire Russians to do same?? ... Now moderates within Iran's government need to be reached out to .... Trump messed up things with the moderates in the 2013-2021 admin ... but Trump a hardliner himself had no interest in talking to Iran's moderates ... today Mohammed Bajer Qalibaf is one of the more moderate members of the current system ... I'd say a lot of people like him would be glad to see the back of the Khamenei family ... whatever whoever they need to be included in a post Khamenei Iran and all parties bar Paydari/other hardlners I feel should be part of a new Iran .... where a culture of respect and tolerance replaces the current negative confrontational policies ... also professionals who can rise above ideology are needed ... I feel the Khameneis and their Paydari pals cannot change to form positive relationships with the world and end compulsory Hijab even if they wanted to .... they don't know how ... and therefore have failed Iran and its people ...

Gerry T · 09-08-2023 03:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120957012#Comment_120957012

Fixed that for ya..

The Shah is a major example of someone being better than what came after him .... as we speak Iran is probably the ~~second~~ third worst regime in the world ... only Russia and Afghanistan is worse ... and the Shah's reign now looks like the golden age of modern Iran ...the current ultra hardline Iranian government that took office in 2021 is by far the worst Iranian government of all time but still nowhere near as bad as Russia ...bla bla...

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