What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

Overheal · 05-08-2023 11:04PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120944628#Comment_120944628

They're not politically motivated. A poll doesn't show otherwise. A Grand Jury of Floridians indicted Trump.

MisterAnarchy · 05-08-2023 11:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120944631#Comment_120944631

You are in the 37% that thinks that so, just over a third. The minority in other words.

Glencarraig · 05-08-2023 11:11PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120941575#Comment_120941575

The orange gobsh*ite probably discovered that Graham has a smaller di*k than him and has photos to prove it.

Penn · 05-08-2023 11:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120944628#Comment_120944628

Yet you're excessively familiar with two cases where he received criticism. The only two cases (out of God knows how many) where judges and others criticised his actions or dismissed his arguments.

What research into Jack Smith did you do? Did you just hear about those two cases and then stop? Did you not try do full and proper research about all his cases in order to form your own opinion? Or was it just because those two cases were the ones being thrown about by Trump supporters to criticise Jack Smith?

As for the documents case against Trump, no, I don't believe it's politically motivated. There was no case against Trump, he was just being asked to comply with the Records Acts, allow these things to be checked, return any documents he wasn't supposed to have. His repeated failure to comply and engage properly lead to an investigation, the evidence of which showed clear, intentional actions to disregard the laws and rules as well as further breaches of those laws, and general obstruction. So no, that's not politically motivated. That's a guy f*cking around and finding out, because no one is above the law.

Overheal · 05-08-2023 11:18PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120944635#Comment_120944635

Again, it's just a poll.

I love that you'll engage with a poll but refuse to engage with the facts of the indictments. It tells me everything I need.

odyssey06 · 05-08-2023 11:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120944628#Comment_120944628

From the same poll:

48% of Americans think Trump was rightfully charged in the classified documents case, while 35% do not think he should have been indicted.

So thats a clear lead for those who think it was right to charge Trump.

Doesnt really make sense that more people think they were politically motivated than think Trump should not have been charged. Suggests there may have been various interpretations of what 'politically motivated' means.

The poll figures dont look good for Trump though.

I.R.Y.E.D · 05-08-2023 11:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120944612#Comment_120944612

He seems to forget/ignore, as do his fans, that Smith is used to trials involving mob bosses and war criminals, some of who have a habit of trying to threaten the people involved in their prosecution and knows how to deal with such threats.

However most mob bosses and war criminals aren't fúcking thick enough to do so online where it can be used as evidence.

mcmoustache · 06-08-2023 12:14AM

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Reality isn't subject to the results of a poll. Events happen or don't happen regardless of whether or not people believe they happened or didn't happen.

dinorebel · 06-08-2023 12:24AM

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Given that Pence will probably be a witness in the Jan 6 trial this could be construed as witness tampering. As always with Trump his own words will be what destroys him.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 06-08-2023 12:36AM

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You're not going to have boxes of high-security political documents in your bathroom and NOT get charged. That's not saying he's guilty, but what your saying here is that there wasn't enough evidence to bring this to trial, and the only evidence you have to the contrary is a Fox News poll.

Considering he wanted Hilary Clinton locked up for waaaaay less, I'm not sure what your hypothesis is, short of the FBI planted the boxes there without anyone at Mar A Lago noticeing.

duploelabs · 06-08-2023 12:50AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120944827#Comment_120944827

Please violate bail, please violate bail

astrofool · 06-08-2023 01:15AM

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The question isn't about the guilt, nobody with a functioning brain could be that dumb given the mountains of evidence already in public along with numerous confessions from trump.

It's that they want trump to get away with it and are willing to debase and humiliate themselves in the process.

Which is funny to watch, grown men crying about a very stupid man who they like because he's a misogynist among numerous other awful character traits.

banie01 · 06-08-2023 01:23AM

His Avatar on truth social jarred with me. I couldn't put my finger on why until I zoomed in. There's no orientation of the "flag" on his mug, that actually presents the correct aspect for the Flag.

Mr MAGA, flag shagging American hero and Uber wanker...

Managed to mangle his nation's flag in an effort to appear as a super patriot🤔

VinLieger · 06-08-2023 01:27AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120944927#Comment_120944927

Jesus I'd never looked properly at it but your right, he's fvcked the orientation.

dinorebel · 06-08-2023 01:30AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120944935#Comment_120944935

Trump makes it all about him who'd of thunk it😁

robinph · 06-08-2023 01:44AM

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How terrible must it have looked the right way round for them to instead had it back to front and hanging downwards.

Isn't it a sign of distress for a boat to fly their flag upside down?

banie01 · 06-08-2023 02:02AM

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Isn't there some fashion rule for stripes? Vertical makes you thinner/taller and Horizontal makes you look shorter/fatter?

I'd ask the Mrs but if I wake her to check she may well stab me 😛

The legal pedant in me actually wonders if Trump may actually be in violation of flag code in defacing the US flag🤔 or if? In a moment of legal genius? He has mangled the flag just enough for it not to be the US flag?

charlie_says · 06-08-2023 02:35AM

Why didn't Trump get remanded into custody, if he's a threat to US democracy and conspired to derail it is he allowed back in the campaign trail?

Considering the amount of felonies and charges he has racked up against him, as well as being a convicted (in civil court lol) sex predator is he allowed out?

How come considering how DANGEROUS he is, was he allowed to continue to conspire and fester in Florida when he transferred power and stepped down like a total fascist madman on time, is his hate allowed to be broadcast and further INFLAME his violent base?

His planes should be impounded at least and all his properties searched for Super Secret Documents We Can't See Because Reasons But Trust Us!

He could fly to Moscow and piss on prostitutes at any point?!?

LOCK HIM UP

francois · 06-08-2023 08:16AM

He's at the finding out stage of fùcking about

https://twitter.com/Brandi_Buchman/status/1687913447386746881?s=20

Tell me how · 06-08-2023 08:44AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120941575#Comment_120941575

From 2016

From last night

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1687976995102343168?t=HLP7GMBW0IDVhNU-ioEP3g&s=19

Hustler magazine level dirt.

eightieschewbaccy · 06-08-2023 08:48AM

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A poll is irrelevant, we've had multiple grand juries that support prosecuting him. He's not being accused of minor crimes, they're literally one step short of sedition.

In relation to Smith, so you've written him off based on the two cases that the right have latched onto. Rather than considering the entirety of his career and his overall success rate? You've implied previously that judicial overreach is Smith's Modus Operandi so the logical conclusion is he engaged in the same for the war crime cases and all his successful corruption cases. And that's where the argument falls apart. You can't imply a pattern of overreach when he doesn't actually have such a pattern.

pixelburp · 06-08-2023 08:50AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120945242#Comment_120945242

We say that, but what if it's as simple as Graham bring exactly as snivelling and shameless as he presents in public? That he is, ultimately, just a career toadie and makes no attempt to hide it? The guy knows how American politics works and understood that whiplash loyalties won't get punished by a notedly, aggressively undereducated voter base.

Agent Coulson · 06-08-2023 08:52AM

Lindsey Graham is just a Milhouse and Trump is his Bart.

PropJoe10 · 06-08-2023 09:10AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120945248#Comment_120945248

I remember looking into that before. Back in the day, Graham was apparently close friends with John McCain and used to go on diplomatic trips with Hillary Clinton, who considered him a friend. Something bad has happened to Lindsey. Either that, or Trump has some serious dirt on him that he's scared of.

looksee · 06-08-2023 09:31AM

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The article quoted is from 14th June, the 'according to the poll' link produces a list of Fox News articles, one of which is that article posted, hardly 'proof'. An independent search of Isos polls does show the number quoted to be correct.

A direct search for more recent Ipsos polls is here https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-and-events/news. Interestingly this poll: https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/abc-news-trump-indictment-january-6 says that while 38% of Republicans think the charges are serious, only 14% think he should be charged with a crime.

While the question about whether the charges are serious is extremely ambiguous, it seems to demonstrate that Republicans overall are more caught up in the cult of personality than actual politics or integrity or the well-being of the country, and overall that Americans have a dismal understanding of politics, their own voting system and government, or any awareness of critical thinking.

Penn · 06-08-2023 09:48AM

Plus, whether or not people think Trump should be indicted, or if the indictments are politically motivated, does not matter.

His actions warranted investigations. Those investigations found evidence of illegality. Those illegal actions warranted criminal charges.

Public opinion does not matter in this regard. Polls are irrelevant.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 06-08-2023 09:53AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120944917#Comment_120944917

I wasn't responding to the question of guilt, I was responding to the posters theory that the charges were politically motivated.

everlast75 · 06-08-2023 10:03AM

Posting this as it's relevant to MAGA supporters...

https://twitter.com/jimstewartson/status/1687879197388378112?s=20

AMKC · 06-08-2023 10:23AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120944986#Comment_120944986

Isn't there some fashion rule for stripes? Vertical makes you thinner/taller and Horizontal makes you look shorter/fatter?

Yes that is correct.

All it makes Trump look like do is the Clown that he is.

xper · 06-08-2023 11:25AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120944927#Comment_120944927

*Pedantry Alert*

The presentation of the flag in his avatar is actually in line with the US flag code for vertical display: “When displayed either horizontally or vertically against a wall, the union should be uppermost and to the flag's own right, that is, to the observer's left.”

(if one interprets ‘wall’ as any physical vertical surface)

Source: https://www.military.com/flag-day/us-flag-code.html/amp

Whether digitally portraying the flag painted or projected on the mug of an ignorant, self-serving, lying, misogynistic, narcissistic rapist for the purposes of fooling idiots that he’s some sort of patriot conforms to the code may be another matter.

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