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Sex for free rent: Why is this so wrong between consenting adults?

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  • #332
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,186 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120940178#Comment_120940178

    You could say the same about a lot of laws that are there to protect vulnerable people.. Stalking, sexual harrassment at work, rape, incest..... I could go on but I think you can see where I am going.

    Its not PR. 🙄

    If it needs a law to stop predatory landlords behaving like this, then it is an issue.



  • #333
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,186 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120939973#Comment_120939973

    So you think a woman should ' please' a man??



  • #334
    John_Rambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,508 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    This is just abhorrent & perverse.

    Anyone that thinks it's ok to derive sexual pleasure from this sort of arrangement needs a few hours with the girls or boys father.

    Dirty, exploitative & rapey scumbags. Thread should be closed.



  • #335
    osarusan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,009 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Christ what a stupid, stupid thread.



  • #336
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,166 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    It's hard to believe that this is even up for discussion in what is supposedly modern progressive country.

    The current housing crisis (that has been rumbling on for a generation at this stage) is giving birth to all sorts of insane issues.



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  • #337
    Emblematic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭Emblematic


    It's very strange seeing people argue in favour of this. Are renters not hard done by enough in this country?



  • #338
    arctictree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,553 ✭✭✭arctictree


    The cynic in me is thinking that SF love to propose laws like this as they know that no Govt. politician would dare oppose it as they would immediatley be targetted by the media as someone who supports sex for rent!



  • #339
    chrisd2019
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭chrisd2019


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120930851#Comment_120930851

    A friends with benefits arrangement, more common that many would like to admit and recognise I would thing.



  • #340
    chrisd2019
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭chrisd2019


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120939612#Comment_120939612

    None in reality if both entering the agreement without pressure. But in the Irish mentality that anything about sex is harmful it is a different story. Personally I know of many situations where rent is reduced as the tenant gives the landlord some beneficial service, such as security, gardening, painting ect., is sexual benefit the only one that brings the talk of legal control :)



  • #341
    John_Rambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,508 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120941256#Comment_120941256

    A likely story, if it's to believed by this dirtbag. I have a feeling we've a very very one sided story. I'm sure the other side of the story may be very different.

    It's scarily obvious that we haven't heard from one single person happily engaging in sexual favours for reduced rent. All we're hearing is from people like this "happily married" landlord coercing young women into sexual favours.



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  • #342
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120941256#Comment_120941256

    They aren't friends though they are landlord and tenant.



  • #343
    Man of the People
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 ✭Man of the People


    I'm horrifically astonished that this discussion is even taking place. Particularly by boards users(obviously there's all sorts on here but I'd expect everyone to be at least one notch above the mutant facebook dwellers). What the f*** has happened to society!?



  • #344
    John_Rambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,508 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    We now have a recorded list of self admitted sexual predators on boards.ie.

    I wonder if It's easy to find out who they are.



  • #345
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,368 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    How about fair rent, and no sex.



  • #346
    ghostfacekilla
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 739 ✭✭✭ghostfacekilla


    Pretty much most marriages tbf.



  • #347
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,235 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120941544#Comment_120941544

    Some people clearly haven't moved on from 1930s attitudes of women being chattel owned by their husbands.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #348
    Leg End Reject
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,628 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120941256#Comment_120941256

    A friends with benefits situation is 2 people who are comfortable with each other and who have sufficient sexual attraction hooking up occasionally for consensual sex.

    One of them is not reliant on the benefits part to secure accommodation.

    https://forumofgames.com/



  • #349
    Furze99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120941389#Comment_120941389

    Taken at straight face value, yes you're quite correct. But read the thread and you'll see that there are all sorts of ambiguities and grey areas. That would make legislation very tricky. And that's what the Shinner chap has proposed.



  • #350
    Emblematic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭Emblematic


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120941515#Comment_120941515

    Post reported.



  • #351
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,235 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120942332#Comment_120942332

    I don't see any issues with the bill

    SINN FÉIN HAS today published legislation that would make seeking sex for rent, or advertising such arrangements an offence under the Residential Tenancies Act.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • #352
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 115 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120941515#Comment_120941515

    How about fair rent, free sale and fixity of tenure? The three fs, aptly enough.



  • #353
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,235 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120942914#Comment_120942914

    None of that makes sense? In this market there is very little "fair" rent, "free sale" makes no sense as the landlord pays income tax

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #354
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 115 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120942115#Comment_120942115

    Now, the women own the men in Irish family law courts - once they have that first house and first child, of course. So, there are "chattels" in marriages today alright - and they aren't, for all their playing of the victim card, women.



  • #355
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,235 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120942935#Comment_120942935

    Exactly what I said. Archaic attitudes that belong in history.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #356
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120942115#Comment_120942115

    Most notably the OP being one of them. Has had many warnings and posts removed for his long anti-women rants.

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120942935#Comment_120942935

    He just can't stop himself from bringing the courts up at every single opportunity to justify his attacks on women.



  • #357
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120942935#Comment_120942935

    You go to all the cases before the family law courts, yeah?



  • #358
    hymenelectra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭hymenelectra


    I doubt many would feel this is a normal situation.

    But the fact that it is happening, and some see it as "sure that's grand" is yet another symptom of the moral decay brought on by the hyper greed of irelands housing fiasco.

    Irelands purposefully created and carelessly guided housing crisis, mind you.



  • #359
    Furze99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120942664#Comment_120942664

    There will be issues if it ends up criminalising people who don't fall into the category of 'lecherous landlord preying on vulnerable women'.

    Take the banning of bedsits by John Gormley's Greens - on paper it was a solid idea. But ask those who lost the options of reasonably costed accommodation and were forced either on public housing lists or into rents they struggle to pay.

    Things are very rarely completely black & white.



  • #360
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,235 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120943198#Comment_120943198

    "Reasonably costed" hovels?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • #361
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,235 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120943146#Comment_120943146

    Yep. Pretty disgusting that people are justifying it and pretending there is no exploitation involved.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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